From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1009CC433E7 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC58C2067D for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:14:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1594851297; bh=CUZJ25Szi3C99xPXb1iXVJJARRC12tD/b1ygd9NAdUQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:References:In-Reply-To:List-ID: From; b=P6hqtxbpf50KqnEq9v6vW+dzTDUGzGUUPDEq3EG3TQyC42pf/hXF/d3l0u1zL20uD o7kd+/eq8m+1eWS+31gAYWifM7vO7BQrF0CC18YnSDJvBvIi0u1jdfQ0a7Q9vIE2pA SGrcj0c5M6mn4yLKehTN4h4UijLSLYwUecetuz00= Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728001AbgGOWOx (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:14:53 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:35668 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727971AbgGOWOu (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:14:50 -0400 Received: from paulmck-ThinkPad-P72.home (50-39-111-31.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.39.111.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83FE72065F; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:14:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1594851289; bh=CUZJ25Szi3C99xPXb1iXVJJARRC12tD/b1ygd9NAdUQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=dY5oTNj0X17RH9aW4Nv23OmusgZCXcHgxD5lbUTTasH6D9BhuT9n1DJHeiAYIRmBM d9gOnEiKmvaiv2isIrQaDOsJuu8TQfOp6SH/VjECxcfwo1q5M/BOkYeAAKYjqyAc4N iVwx8IHOXCPCMqCeZWrr6V/ytkn+pk8b5GCQ+584= Received: by paulmck-ThinkPad-P72.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 65E8935229F4; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:14:49 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior Cc: Uladzislau Rezki , LKML , RCU , linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , "Theodore Y . Ts'o" , Matthew Wilcox , Joel Fernandes , Oleksiy Avramchenko Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] rcu/tree: Drop the lock before entering to page allocator Message-ID: <20200715221449.GJ9247@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: <20200715183537.4010-1-urezki@gmail.com> <20200715185628.7b4k3o5efp4gnbla@linutronix.de> <20200715190243.GA26735@pc636> <20200715193250.axntj7jdt6bw52dr@linutronix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200715193250.axntj7jdt6bw52dr@linutronix.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 09:32:50PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > On 2020-07-15 21:02:43 [+0200], Uladzislau Rezki wrote: > > > > > > spin_lock(); > > __get_free_page(GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN); > > spin_unlock(); > > > > > > Also, please note we do it for regular kernel. > > ach right okay then. > > > > > > > What happened to the part where I asked for a spinlock_t? > > > > > What do you mean? > > Please drop that raw_spinlock_t for the kfree_rcu() based locking and > use just a plain spinlock_t for the locking. Then you can keep the same > code flow for RT and !RT without any special cases and everything. My concern is that some critical bug will show up at some point that requires double-argument kfree_rcu() be invoked while holding a raw spinlock. (Single-argument kfree_rcu() must sometimes invoke synchronize_rcu(), so it can never be invoked in any state forbidding invoking schedule().) Yes, dropping to a plain spinlock would be simple in the here and now, but experience indicates that it is only a matter of time, and that when that time comes it will come as an emergency. One approach would be to replace the "IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)" with some sort of check for being in a context where spinlock acquisition is not legal. What could be done along those lines? Thanx, Paul