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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: silence soft lockups from unlock_page
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 17:49:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200721154939.GO4061@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whewL14RgwLZTXcNAnrDPt0H+sRJS6iDq0oGb6zwaBMxg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 21-07-20 08:33:33, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:33 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > The lockup is in page_unlock in do_read_fault and I suspect that this is
> > yet another effect of a very long waitqueue chain which has been
> > addresses by 11a19c7b099f ("sched/wait: Introduce wakeup boomark in
> > wake_up_page_bit") previously.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> I do not believe that you can actually get to the point where you have
> a million waiters and it takes 20+ seconds to wake everybody up.

I was really suprised as well!

> More likely, it's actually *caused* by that commit 11a19c7b099f, and
> what might be happening is that other CPU's are just adding new
> waiters to the list *while* we're waking things up, because somebody
> else already got the page lock again.
> 
> Humor me.. Does something like this work instead? It's
> whitespace-damaged because of just a cut-and-paste, but it's entirely
> untested, and I haven't really thought about any memory ordering
> issues, but I think it's ok.
> 
> The logic is that anybody who called wake_up_page_bit() _must_ have
> cleared that bit before that. So if we ever see it set again (and
> memory ordering doesn't matter), then clearly somebody else got access
> to the page bit (whichever it was), and we should not
> 
>  (a) waste time waking up people who can't get the bit anyway
> 
>  (b) be in a  livelock where other CPU's continually add themselves to
> the wait queue because somebody else got the bit.
> 
> and it's that (b) case that I think happens for you.
> 
> NOTE! Totally UNTESTED patch follows. I think it's good, but maybe
> somebody sees some problem with this approach?

I can ask them to give it a try.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-21 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-21  6:32 [RFC PATCH] mm: silence soft lockups from unlock_page Michal Hocko
2020-07-21 11:10 ` Qian Cai
2020-07-21 11:25   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-21 11:44     ` Qian Cai
2020-07-21 12:17       ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-21 13:23         ` Qian Cai
2020-07-21 13:38           ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-21 14:15             ` Qian Cai
2020-07-21 14:17 ` Chris Down
2020-07-21 15:00   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-21 15:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-21 15:49   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-07-22 18:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-22 21:29     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-22 22:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-22 23:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23  0:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 12:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23 17:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 18:01               ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23 18:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 19:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24 14:45                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23 20:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-23 23:11                 ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-23 23:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24  0:07                     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-24  0:46                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24  3:45                         ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-24 15:24                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-24 17:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24 23:25                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25  2:08                           ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-25  2:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25 10:14                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-25 18:48                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25 19:27                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-25 19:51                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-26 13:57                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-25 21:19                               ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-26  4:22                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-26 20:30                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-26 20:41                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-26 22:09                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-27 19:35                                     ` Greg KH
2020-08-06  5:46                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-08-18 13:50                                         ` Greg KH
2020-08-06  5:21                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-08-06 17:07                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-06 18:00                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-06 18:32                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-07 18:41                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2020-08-07 19:07                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-07 19:35                                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-03 13:14                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-03 17:56                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25  9:39                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-07-23  8:03     ` Michal Hocko

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