From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2567C433E1 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 08:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8192080C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 08:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=javigon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@javigon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="KwsteLEU" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725916AbgHTIDd (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 04:03:33 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43562 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725834AbgHTIDQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 04:03:16 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x643.google.com (mail-ej1-x643.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::643]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 656BAC061757 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 01:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x643.google.com with SMTP id c16so1375098ejx.12 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 01:03:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=javigon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=R8fk87r2NB5AfCq6Eih8WnPcjOrj6NaIDnoUfvFvZuc=; b=KwsteLEUTu5af/PUU3LB9WbBpqWYT9Or3Fm6fZFPCrqnKu2VPmUx8Ie6wDvdE0pNKe Z7/viAz840rUFRXrziTkhOYiQej7+UDJYB9rMBcFujtp5Ywv2qEV9GaenWvdfxqmNn8x yIU84VtWVRR3mCdtC4Yg8RHo2YRwCt+piymIaJ/+DQwDUUNSsqhOv1HuBYBlOGZuV4hs 22fnLpHR+SeeUPOp4QAJbjIqRm8zw9W06+KE/I0bkc4JI9HDwi3zGWitpfVL4g3r1XMk C5vKm72BxyaM6Hk/goLK8oNZtuyPkRR0gDmvuae0WmpW0WynR5oCjBiAe2l4SlqdavQr kcLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=R8fk87r2NB5AfCq6Eih8WnPcjOrj6NaIDnoUfvFvZuc=; b=jdzfqQTzsZz2ZV4JbOq/oxUozq0phILBKd4xzZMo2BNkzSznvjYTeDIJ+qOw3EBzHM XZbwvkbl3G/fDjVs4gLKWy6CEU8J+xiudAQohuWT8KToD1WtpYvKnWaWzAS+lDvxE42y LZn12GjIhBJhbKJ/LRjZc2NKa0sqee6jJDBKo6TTiZxqNRUMEwZ9zm5TcJ64d3lFlMTO D91BF3cqHLkUbcCXomygVzCoonLI1TCGY71r+kM2ohnuN6AjNubUige6LthaUiW5w5vA 7PTu2sSC8aebsjXeIfixu9OwMwQUUazq5OQYirlWJVY8V7WaF4SHZd36KF/UK4v2psCi 8X0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Wh6VK1hLt7qN/2sH3tqU9Yk9w0IzI1YpleZIoy0hY73LlgJ0j CXC92683cPUTZDqlvOsrLpcROg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxaazq3f/bU/Ux+ct20z483SNcc8H8VttXDhliGkBkB3jKQqOtusyU3lgxf80JjEr9OoII+bA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:9592:: with SMTP id r18mr1989603ejx.464.1597910593863; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 01:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([194.62.217.57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v7sm890198edd.48.2020.08.20.01.03.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 01:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:03:12 +0200 From: Javier Gonzalez To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Jens Axboe , david.fugate@linux.intel.com, Kanchan Joshi , "kbusch@kernel.org" , "Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com" , "sagi@grimberg.me" , "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "johannes.thumshirn@wdc.com" , Nitesh Shetty , SelvaKumar S Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] nvme: add emulation for zone-append Message-ID: <20200820080312.oxsnsedn6rqf3rcx@mpHalley.local> References: <20200818052936.10995-1-joshi.k@samsung.com> <20200818052936.10995-3-joshi.k@samsung.com> <20200818071249.GB2544@lst.de> <9fa64efe-8477-5d33-20ed-9619a9fe8d70@kernel.dk> <20200820063719.q6wftb23op45wigk@MacBook-Pro.localdomain> <20200820065250.GA6885@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200820065250.GA6885@lst.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 20.08.2020 08:52, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Javier Gonzalez wrote: >> We will stop pushing for this emulation. We have a couple of SSDs where >> we disabled Append, we implemented support for them, and we wanted to >> push the changes upstream. That's it. This is no politics not a >> conspiracy against the current ZNS spec. We spent a lot of time working >> on this spec and are actually doing a fair amount of work to support >> Append other places in the stack. In any case, the fuzz stops here. > >FYI, from knowing your personally I'm pretty confident you are not >part of a conspiracy and you are just doing your best given the context, >and I appreciate all your work! Thanks Christoph. > >I'm a lot less happy about thinks that happen in other groups not >involving you directly, and I'm still pretty mad at how the games were >played there, and especially other actors the seem to be reading the >list here, and instead of taking part in the discussion are causing fuzz >in completely unrelated venues. Yes. Hopefully, we will start keeping things separated and using this list for Linux, technical conversations only.