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From: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
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	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
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	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
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	Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/asm: Replace __force_order with memory clobber
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:24:49 -0400
Message-ID: <20200902182449.GA3586123@rani.riverdale.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72=jwj0xocJ7iAkntbnHDQphL79XcPREz1qpW0yqrMsz4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 08:19:25PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 5:33 PM Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > + * The compiler should not reorder volatile asm, however older versions of GCC
> > + * had a bug (which was fixed in 8.1, 7.3 and 6.5) where they could sometimes
> > + * reorder volatile asm. The write functions are not a problem since they have
> > + * memory clobbers preventing reordering. To prevent reads from being reordered
> > + * with respect to writes, use a dummy memory operand.
> 
> I see you added the information to the commit message, but I'd still
> reword this to something like:

Ah sorry, I forgot to change the comment in the source as well.

> 
> "The compiler should not reorder volatile asm, however GCC 4.9.x and
> 5.x have a bug where they could sometimes reorder volatile asm. The
> bug was fixed in 8.1, 7.3 and 6.5. The write functions are not a
> problem since they have memory clobbers preventing reordering. To
> prevent reads from being reordered with respect to writes, use a dummy
> memory operand."
> 
> The important point is that 4.9.x and 5.x *have* the bug and that is
> the reason for having the hack. In the old wording it seems like the
> bug is no more. Then one wonders why the hack is still there (i.e.
> perhaps because we don't trust it, perhaps to support the rest of the
> minor versions which are newer, perhaps to avoid regressions, perhaps
> only the comment was updated, etc.).
> 
> Cheers,
> Miguel

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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-27 13:53 [PATCH] x86: work around clang IAS bug referencing __force_order Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-01 11:50 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-06 22:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-07  7:03     ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-04  0:09 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-14 17:29   ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-14 21:19     ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-14 22:57       ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15  0:26         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-15  3:28           ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-15  8:23             ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-15 10:46               ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-15 14:39                 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-16  9:37                   ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-06 22:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-13  0:12   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-13  8:49     ` David Laight
2020-08-13 17:20     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-13 17:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-13 17:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 18:09         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-13 18:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-20 10:44           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-20 13:06             ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21  0:37               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-21 23:04                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21 23:16                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-21 23:25                     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-22  0:43                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-22  3:55                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-22  8:41                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-08-22  9:23                           ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-22  9:51                             ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-22 10:26                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-08-22 10:35                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-08-22 18:17                               ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-08-22 21:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-22 23:10                                   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-23  0:10                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-23  1:16                                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-23 21:25                                         ` [PATCH] x86/asm: Replace __force_order with memory clobber Arvind Sankar
2020-08-24 17:50                                           ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-08-24 19:13                                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-08-25 15:19                                             ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-25 15:21                                               ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-02 15:33                                           ` [PATCH v2] " Arvind Sankar
2020-09-02 15:58                                             ` David Laight
2020-09-02 16:14                                               ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-02 16:08                                             ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-02 20:26                                               ` David Laight
2020-09-02 17:16                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-09-02 17:36                                               ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-02 18:19                                             ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-09-02 18:24                                               ` Arvind Sankar [this message]
2020-09-02 23:21                                           ` [PATCH v3] " Arvind Sankar
2020-09-03  2:17                                             ` Kees Cook
2020-09-03  5:34                                             ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-09-30 20:50                                             ` Kees Cook
2020-10-01 10:12                                             ` [tip: x86/asm] x86/asm: Replace __force_order with a " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-10-13  9:30                                             ` tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-08-22 21:17                                 ` [PATCH] x86: work around clang IAS bug referencing __force_order Arvind Sankar
2020-08-23 13:31                                   ` David Laight
2020-09-08 22:25                               ` Pavel Machek

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