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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	peterz@infradead.org, Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>,
	Hou Tao <houtao1@huawei.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] locking/percpu-rwsem: use this_cpu_{inc|dec}() for read_count
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 09:49:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200920234954.GY12096@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200918132635.GI18920@quack2.suse.cz>

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 03:26:35PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Fri 18-09-20 15:09:14, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 09/18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > But again, do we really want this?
> > >
> > > I like the two counters better, avoids atomics entirely, some archs
> > > hare horridly expensive atomics (*cough* power *cough*).
> > 
> > I meant... do we really want to introduce percpu_up_read_irqsafe() ?
> > 
> > Perhaps we can live with the fix from Hou? At least until we find a
> > "real" performance regression.
> 
> I can say that for users of percpu rwsem in filesystems the cost of atomic
> inc/dec is unlikely to matter. The lock hold times there are long enough
> that it would be just lost in the noise.

I'm not sure that is correct. We do an inc/dec pair per AIO, so if
we are running millions of IOPS through the AIO subsystem, then the
cost of doing millions of extra atomic ops every second is going to
be noticable...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-20 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 14:07 [RFC PATCH] locking/percpu-rwsem: use this_cpu_{inc|dec}() for read_count Hou Tao
2020-09-15 15:06 ` peterz
2020-09-15 15:31   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-15 15:51     ` peterz
2020-09-15 16:03       ` peterz
2020-09-15 16:11         ` Will Deacon
2020-09-15 18:11           ` peterz
2020-09-16  8:20             ` Will Deacon
2020-09-15 16:47         ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-16 12:32         ` Hou Tao
2020-09-16 12:51           ` peterz
2020-09-17  8:48           ` Will Deacon
2020-09-24 11:55             ` Hou Tao
2020-09-29 17:49               ` Will Deacon
2020-09-29 18:07                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-17 10:51           ` Boaz Harrosh
2020-09-17 12:01             ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-17 12:48               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17 13:22                 ` peterz
2020-09-17 13:34                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-17 13:46                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2020-09-17 14:46                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18  9:07               ` Jan Kara
2020-09-18 10:01                 ` peterz
2020-09-18 10:04                   ` peterz
2020-09-18 10:07                     ` peterz
2020-09-18 10:12                   ` peterz
2020-09-18 10:48                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-18 11:03                       ` peterz
2020-09-18 13:09                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-18 13:26                           ` Jan Kara
2020-09-20 23:49                             ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2020-09-18  8:36 ` [tip: locking/urgent] locking/percpu-rwsem: Use this_cpu_{inc,dec}() " tip-bot2 for Hou Tao

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