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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Theodore Y . Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sonymobile.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC-PATCH 2/4] mm: Add __rcu_alloc_page_lockless() func.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 16:12:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201005141233.GB17959@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201002080624.GB3227@techsingularity.net>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 09:06:24AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 09:26:26PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > 
> > > No, I meant going back to idea of new gfp flag, but adjust the implementation in
> > > the allocator (different from what you posted in previous version) so that it
> > > only looks at the flag after it tries to allocate from pcplist and finds out
> > > it's empty. So, no inventing of new page allocator entry points or checks such
> > > as the one you wrote above, but adding the new gfp flag in a way that it doesn't
> > > affect existing fast paths.
> > >
> > OK. Now i see. Please have a look below at the patch, so we fully understand
> > each other. If that is something that is close to your view or not:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > t a/include/linux/gfp.h b/include/linux/gfp.h
> > index c603237e006c..7e613560a502 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/gfp.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
> > @@ -39,8 +39,9 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
> >  #define ___GFP_HARDWALL                0x100000u
> >  #define ___GFP_THISNODE                0x200000u
> >  #define ___GFP_ACCOUNT         0x400000u
> > +#define ___GFP_NO_LOCKS                0x800000u
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_LOCKDEP
> > -#define ___GFP_NOLOCKDEP       0x800000u
> > +#define ___GFP_NOLOCKDEP       0x1000000u
> >  #else
> >  #define ___GFP_NOLOCKDEP       0
> >  #endif
> > @@ -215,16 +216,22 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
> >   * %__GFP_COMP address compound page metadata.
> >   *
> >   * %__GFP_ZERO returns a zeroed page on success.
> > + *
> > + * %__GFP_NO_LOCKS order-0 allocation without sleepable-locks.
> > + * It obtains a page from the per-cpu-list and considered as
> > + * lock-less. No other actions are performed, thus it returns
> > + * NULL if per-cpu-list is empty.
> >   */
> >  #define __GFP_NOWARN   ((__force gfp_t)___GFP_NOWARN)
> >  #define __GFP_COMP     ((__force gfp_t)___GFP_COMP)
> >  #define __GFP_ZERO     ((__force gfp_t)___GFP_ZERO)
> > +#define __GFP_NO_LOCKS ((__force gfp_t)___GFP_NO_LOCKS)
> > 
> 
> I'm not a fan of the GFP flag approach simply because we've had cases
> before where GFP flags were used in inappropriate contexts like
> __GFP_MEMALLOC which led to a surprising amount of bugs, particularly
> from out-of-tree drivers but also in-tree drivers. Of course, there
> are limited GFP flags available too but at least the comment should
> be as robust as possible. Maybe something like
> 
>  * %__GFP_NO_LOCKS attempts order-0 allocation without sleepable-locks. It
>  * attempts to obtain a page without acquiring any spinlocks. This
>  * should only be used in a context where the holder holds a
>  * raw_spin_lock that cannot be released for the allocation request.
>  * This may be necessary in PREEMPT_RT kernels where a
>  * raw_spin_lock is held which does not sleep tries to acquire a
>  * spin_lock that can sleep with PREEMPT_RT. This should not be
>  * confused with GFP_ATOMIC contexts. Like atomic allocation
>  * requests, there is no guarantee a page will be returned and
>  * the caller must be able to deal with allocation failures.
>  * The risk of allocation failure is higher than using GFP_ATOMIC.
> 
> It's verbose but it would be hard to misinterpret. I think we're
> going to go through a period of time before people get familiar
> with PREEMPT_RT-related hazards as various comments that were
> true are going to be misleading for a while.
> 
Yep, it should be properly documented for sure. Including new GFP_NOWAIT
limitations, same as GFP_ATOMIC once you mentioned.

Thanks!

--
Vlad Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-05 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-18 19:48 [PATCH 0/4] kvfree_rcu() and _LOCK_NESTING/_PREEMPT_RT Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] rcu/tree: Add a work to allocate pages from regular context Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [RFC-PATCH 2/4] mm: Add __rcu_alloc_page_lockless() func Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-21  7:47   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 15:45     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-21 16:03       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 19:48         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22  7:50           ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-22 13:12             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22 15:35               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-23 10:37               ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-23 15:41                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-23 23:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-24  8:16                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 11:16                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 15:16                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 11:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 15:21                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-25  8:15                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-25 10:25                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 15:38                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-25  8:26                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-26 14:37                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-25  8:05                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-25 15:31                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-25 15:47                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29 16:25                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30  9:27                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 12:35                                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 12:44                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 13:39                                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 16:46                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 20:36                                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 15:25                             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 16:48                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 17:03                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 17:22                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 17:48                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-25 16:17                           ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-25 17:57                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22 15:49             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-22  3:35         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-22  8:03           ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-22 15:46             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-23 11:27               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-29 10:15   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-29 22:07     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 10:35       ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-01 19:32         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 14:39       ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-30 15:37         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-01 19:26         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02  7:11           ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-02  8:50             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02  9:05               ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-05 15:08                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-05 15:41                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-06 22:25                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-07 10:02                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-07 11:02                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02  9:07               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-02  9:45                 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02  9:58                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-02 10:19                     ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02 14:41                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-06 10:03                         ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-06 15:41                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 13:58             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02  8:06           ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-05 14:12             ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] rcu/tree: use " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu/tree: Use schedule_delayed_work() instead of WQ_HIGHPRI queue Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-20 15:06   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-21 13:27     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-18 22:15 ` [PATCH 0/4] kvfree_rcu() and _LOCK_NESTING/_PREEMPT_RT Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-30 15:52 ` Joel Fernandes

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