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From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
To: Christian Eggers <ceggers@arri.de>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Clark Wang <xiaoning.wang@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: imx: Revert "spi: imx: enable runtime pm support"
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 15:28:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201012132821.GE11648@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2670390.HS4A6M72fu@n95hx1g2>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 12:59:34PM +0200, Christian Eggers wrote:
> Hi Sascha,
> 
> On Friday, 9 October 2020, 09:39:44 CEST, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 06:27:38AM +0200, Christian Eggers wrote:
> > > This reverts commit 525c9e5a32bd7951eae3f06d9d077fea51718a6c.
> > >
> > > If CONFIG_PM is disabled, the system completely freezes on probe as
> > > nothing enables the clock of the SPI peripheral.
> >
> > Instead of reverting it, why not just fix it?
> >
> > Normally the device should be brought to active state manually in probe
> > before pm_runtime takes over, then CONFIG_PM disabled doesn't hurt.
> > Using pm_runtime to put the device to active state initially has the
> > problem you describe.
> 
> prior introducing runtime pm for spi-imx, the clock was "manually" enabled and
> disabled around each transfer (so the power usage should already have been
> optimal). If we would manually enable the clock in probe() as you suggested,
> for users without CONFIG_PM there would be a drawback compared with the
> previous state (as the clock will always be on now).
> 
> What is the benefit of controlling the SPI clock with runtime PM instead of
> doing it manually?

The clocks are reconfigured less frequently with pm_runtime. Especially
when enabling/disabling PLLs are involved pm_runtime can increase
performance.

Also you can put other stuff you need to handle for your device into
pm_runtime, think of regulators for example. All this is then abstracted
behind a common kernel API.

Generally when you disable CONFIG_PM then you are not interested in
power consumption and in that case you shouldn't be interested in
disabling your SPI clocks.

Sascha

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-12 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-09  4:27 [PATCH] spi: imx: Revert "spi: imx: enable runtime pm support" Christian Eggers
2020-10-09  7:39 ` Sascha Hauer
2020-10-09  7:48   ` Christian Eggers
2020-10-12 14:07     ` Sascha Hauer
2020-10-13 11:58       ` Christian Eggers
2020-10-14 12:15       ` Mark Brown
2020-10-12 10:59   ` Christian Eggers
2020-10-12 13:28     ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2020-10-12 13:42       ` Mark Brown

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