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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 doesn't return SMCCC_RET_NOT_REQUIRED
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 16:49:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201021154909.GD18071@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <160329383454.884498.3396883189907056188@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 08:23:54AM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> Quoting Will Deacon (2020-10-21 00:57:23)
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 02:45:43PM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > > According to the SMCCC spec (7.5.2 Discovery) the
> > > ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 function id only returns 0, 1, and
> > > SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED corresponding to "workaround required",
> > > "workaround not required but implemented", and "who knows, you're on
> > > your own" respectively. For kvm hypercalls (hvc), we've implemented this
> > > function id to return SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED, 1, and
> > > SMCCC_RET_NOT_REQUIRED. The SMCCC_RET_NOT_REQUIRED return value is not a
> > > thing for this function id, and is probably copy/pasted from the
> > > SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_2 function id that does support it.
> > > 
> > > Clean this up by returning 0, 1, and SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED
> > > appropriately. Changing this exposes the problem that
> > > spectre_v2_get_cpu_fw_mitigation_state() assumes a
> > > SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED return value means we are vulnerable, but really
> > > it means we have no idea and should assume we can't do anything about
> > > mitigation. Put another way, it better be unaffected because it can't be
> > > mitigated in the firmware (in this case kvm) as the call isn't
> > > implemented!
> > > 
> > > Cc: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > > Fixes: c118bbb52743 ("arm64: KVM: Propagate full Spectre v2 workaround state to KVM guests")
> > > Fixes: 73f381660959 ("arm64: Advertise mitigation of Spectre-v2, or lack thereof")
> > > Signed-off-by: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > This will require a slightly different backport to stable kernels, but
> > > at least it looks like this is a problem given that this return value
> > > isn't valid per the spec and we've been going around it by returning
> > > something invalid for some time.
> > > 
> > >  arch/arm64/kernel/proton-pack.c | 3 +--
> > >  arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c     | 2 +-
> > >  2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/proton-pack.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/proton-pack.c
> > > index 68b710f1b43f..00bd54f63f4f 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/proton-pack.c
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/proton-pack.c
> > > @@ -149,10 +149,9 @@ static enum mitigation_state spectre_v2_get_cpu_fw_mitigation_state(void)
> > >       case SMCCC_RET_SUCCESS:
> > >               return SPECTRE_MITIGATED;
> > >       case SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_RET_UNAFFECTED:
> > > +     case SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED: /* Good luck w/ the Gatekeeper of Gozer */
> > >               return SPECTRE_UNAFFECTED;
> > 
> > Hmm, I'm not sure this is correct. The SMCCC spec is terrifically
> > unhelpful:
> > 
> >   NOT_SUPPORTED:
> >   Either:
> >   * None of the PEs in the system require firmware mitigation for CVE-2017-5715.
> >   * The system contains at least 1 PE affected by CVE-2017-5715 that has no firmware
> >     mitigation available.
> >   * The firmware does not provide any information about whether firmware mitigation is
> >     required.
> > 
> > so we can't tell whether the thing is vulnerable or not in this case, and
> > have to assume that it is.
> 
> If I'm reading the TF-A code correctly it looks like this will return
> SMC_UNK if the platform decides that "This flag can be set to 0 by the
> platform if none of the PEs in the system need the workaround." Where
> the flag is WORKAROUND_CVE_2017_5715 and the call handler returns 1 if
> the errata doesn't apply but the config is enabled, 0 if the errata
> applies and the config is enabled, or SMC_UNK (I guess this is
> NOT_SUPPORTED?) if the config is disabled[2].
> 
> So TF-A could disable this config and then the kernel would think it is
> vulnerable when it actually isn't? The spec is a pile of ectoplasma
> here.

Yes, but there's not a lot we can do in that case as we rely on the
firmware to tell us whether or not we're affected. We do have the
"safelist" as a last resort, but that's about it.

> > >       default:
> > > -             fallthrough;
> > > -     case SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED:
> > >               return SPECTRE_VULNERABLE;
> > >       }
> > >  }
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c
> > > index 9824025ccc5c..868486957808 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/hypercalls.c
> > > @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ int kvm_hvc_call_handler(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >                               val = SMCCC_RET_SUCCESS;
> > >                               break;
> > >                       case SPECTRE_UNAFFECTED:
> > > -                             val = SMCCC_RET_NOT_REQUIRED;
> > > +                             val = SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED;
> > 
> > Which means we need to return SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_RET_UNAFFECTED here, I
> > suppose?
> > 
> 
> Does the kernel implement a workaround in the case that no guest PE is
> affected? If so then returning 1 sounds OK to me, but otherwise
> NOT_SUPPORTED should work per the spec.

I don't follow you here. The spec says that "SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED" is
valid return code in the case that "The system contains at least 1 PE
affected by CVE-2017-5715 that has no firmware mitigation available."
and do the guest would end up in the "vulnerable" state.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-21 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-20 21:45 [PATCH 0/2] arm64: Fixes for spectre-v2 detection in guest kernels Stephen Boyd
2020-10-20 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 doesn't return SMCCC_RET_NOT_REQUIRED Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21  7:57   ` Will Deacon
2020-10-21 10:23     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-21 12:43       ` Will Deacon
2020-10-21 15:23     ` Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21 15:49       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-10-21 16:12         ` Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21 21:13           ` Will Deacon
2020-10-21 22:06             ` Stephen Boyd
2020-10-20 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: proton-pack: Update comment to reflect new function name Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21 15:44 ` [PATCH 0/2] arm64: Fixes for spectre-v2 detection in guest kernels Will Deacon

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