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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/9] mmap: make mlock_future_check() global
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:58:29 +0200
Message-ID: <20201117155829.GJ370813@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d47fdd2e-a8fa-6792-ca8f-e529be76340c@redhat.com>

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 04:09:39PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 15.11.20 09:26, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 09:15:18PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:

...

> > My thinking was that since secretmem does what mlock() does wrt
> > swapability, it should at least obey the same limit, i.e.
> > RLIMIT_MEMLOCK.
> 
> Right, but at least currently, it behaves like any other CMA allocation
> (IIRC they are all unmovable and, therefore, not swappable). In the future,
> if pages would be movable (but not swappable), I guess it might makes more
> sense. I assume we never ever want to swap secretmem.
> 
> "man getrlimit" states for RLIMIT_MEMLOCK:
> 
> "This is the maximum number of bytes of memory that may be
>  locked into RAM.  [...] This limit affects
>  mlock(2), mlockall(2), and the mmap(2) MAP_LOCKED operation.
>  Since Linux 2.6.9, it also affects the shmctl(2) SHM_LOCK op‐
>  eration [...]"
> 
> So that place has to be updated as well I guess? Otherwise this might come
> as a surprise for users.

Sure.

> > 
> > > E.g., we also don‘t
> > > account for gigantic pages - which might be allocated from CMA and are
> > > not swappable.
> > Do you mean gigantic pages in hugetlbfs?
> 
> Yes
> 
> > It seems to me that hugetlbfs accounting is a completely different
> > story.
> 
> I'd say it is right now comparable to secretmem - which is why I though
> similar accounting would make sense.

IMHO, using RLIMIT_MEMLOCK and memcg is a more straightforward way than
a custom cgroup.

And if we'll see a need for additional mechanism, we can always add it.
 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> David / dhildenb
> 
> 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-10 15:14 [PATCH v8 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 1/9] mm: add definition of PMD_PAGE_ORDER Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 2/9] mmap: make mlock_future_check() global Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 17:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-10 18:06     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-12 16:22       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-12 19:08         ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-12 20:15           ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-15  8:26             ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-17 15:09               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-11-17 15:58                 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 3/9] set_memory: allow set_direct_map_*_noflush() for multiple pages Mike Rapoport
2020-11-13 12:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 4/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-11-13 13:58   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-15  8:53     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-13 14:06   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-15  8:45     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 5/9] secretmem: use PMD-size pages to amortize direct map fragmentation Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 6/9] secretmem: add memcg accounting Mike Rapoport
2020-11-13  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2020-11-13 23:42   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-15  9:17     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 7/9] PM: hibernate: disable when there are active secretmem users Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 8/9] arch, mm: wire up memfd_secret system call were relevant Mike Rapoport
2020-11-13 12:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-15  8:56     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-10 15:14 ` [PATCH v8 9/9] secretmem: test: add basic selftest for memfd_secret(2) Mike Rapoport
2020-11-12 14:56 ` [PATCH v8 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport

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