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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH next v2 2/3] printk: change @clear_seq to atomic64_t
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:29:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201209122909.GL2414@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X9C09N5r4sGdel+h@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain>

On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:28:52PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (20/12/09 12:00), Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > So another potential re-entry path is
> > > 
> > > 	atomic_foo()
> > > 	 spin_lock_irqsave(ATOMIC_HASH(v), flags)
> > > 	  printk()
> > > 	   prb()
> > > 	    atomic_foo()
> > > 	     spin_lock_irqsave(ATOMIC_HASH(v), flags)
> > > 
> > > which can deadlock, in theory, if both atomics HASH to the same
> > > key (same spin_lock).
> > 
> > Yep, but see the 'mostly' in the 'they mostly work'. Given the
> > limitiations of these architectures there's really only so much you can
> > do.
> 
> Right, agreed.
> 
> Nevertheless TIL that lockless printk buffer is not always lockless.
> Perhaps, people that work with those archs need to also know this.

Last time I broke them, they were aware they're 'special' and IIRC
they're mostly just limping along on prayers.

> I haven't checked all the archs, but if, somehow, (IF) some of them
> can panic the system with the atomic hash entries locked, then on
> those archs new printk may not be able to flush-on-panic. Because
> while printk iterates logbuf it may HASH to the atomic hash table
> entry, that will never be unlocked. So there are some changes in
> atomic/printk department on those archs.

Yeah, so I wouldn't put too much effort into thinking about it.
Hopefully we can eventually delete these architectures and really forget
they exist.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-09 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-01 20:53 [PATCH next v2 0/3] printk: remove logbuf_lock John Ogness
2020-12-01 20:53 ` [PATCH next v2 1/3] printk: inline log_output(),log_store() in vprintk_store() John Ogness
2020-12-03 15:57   ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-03 16:25     ` John Ogness
2020-12-04  6:13       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-04  8:26       ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-01 20:53 ` [PATCH next v2 2/3] printk: change @clear_seq to atomic64_t John Ogness
2020-12-04  9:12   ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 20:23     ` John Ogness
2020-12-07  9:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 10:03         ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 12:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 12:56           ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-07 16:46           ` David Laight
2020-12-08 20:34     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-08 22:30       ` John Ogness
2020-12-09  1:04         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09  8:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09  9:22           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09 10:46             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09 11:00               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 11:28                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-09 12:29                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-12-09  8:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-01 20:53 ` [PATCH next v2 3/3] printk: remove logbuf_lock, add syslog_lock John Ogness
2020-12-04  6:41   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-06 20:44     ` John Ogness
2020-12-04 15:52   ` devkmsg: was " Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 20:51     ` John Ogness
2020-12-07  9:56       ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 15:57   ` syslog: was: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 21:06     ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 10:01       ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 16:10   ` recursion handling: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-05  4:25     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-06 22:08       ` John Ogness
2020-12-05  9:41     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-06 22:17       ` John Ogness
2020-12-06 21:44     ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 11:17       ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 16:15   ` vprintk_store: was: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-06 22:30     ` John Ogness
2020-12-07 12:46       ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-04 16:19   ` consoles: " Petr Mladek
2020-12-05  4:39     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-12-07  9:50       ` Petr Mladek
2020-12-08 20:51         ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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