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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation/submitting-patches: Add blurb about backtraces in commit messages
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:19:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210104161911.38eb3e1e@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201222130555.GA13463@zn.tnic>

[Digging out from under the pile of mail...]

> From: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 13:58:22 +0100
> 
> Document that backtraces in commit messages should be trimmed down to
> the useful information only.
> 
> This has been carved out from a tip subsystem handbook patchset by
> Thomas Gleixner:
> 
>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20181107171010.421878737@linutronix.de
> 
> and incorporates follow-on comments.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
> ---
>  Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 20 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> index 5ba54120bef7..0ffb21366381 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> @@ -679,6 +679,26 @@ generates appropriate diffstats by default.)
>  See more details on the proper patch format in the following
>  references.
>  
> +Backtraces in commit mesages
> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> +
> +Backtraces help document the call chain leading to a problem. However,
> +not all backtraces are helpful. For example, early boot call chains are
> +unique and obvious. Copying the full dmesg output verbatim, however,
> +adds distracting information like timestamps, module lists, register and
> +stack dumps.
> +
> +Therefore, the most useful backtraces should distill the relevant
> +information from the dump, which makes it easier to focus on the real
> +issue. Here is an example of a well-trimmed backtrace::
> +
> +  unchecked MSR access error: WRMSR to 0xd51 (tried to write 0x0000000000000064)
> +  at rIP: 0xffffffffae059994 (native_write_msr+0x4/0x20)
> +  Call Trace:
> +  mba_wrmsr
> +  update_domains
> +  rdtgroup_mkdir
> +

So I have some questions, I guess...  How often is a backtrace *in a commit
message* really helpful at all?  The value in problem reports is clear, but
I'm not sure how often having a backtrace in a commit message will really
help the reader understand why the patch was written.  But perhaps I'm
wrong?

If we do want this advice in our already-too-long submitting-patches
document, we should perhaps give some advice as to what is "relevant
information" and what is not?

Thanks,

jon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-04 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-17 18:37 [PATCH] Documentation/submitting-patches: Document the SoB chain Borislav Petkov
2020-12-21 16:54 ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-12-22 13:05   ` [PATCH] Documentation/submitting-patches: Add blurb about backtraces in commit messages Borislav Petkov
2020-12-22 18:59     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-22 19:25       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-28 17:59         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-28 18:15           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-28 19:02             ` Sean Christopherson
2021-01-04 23:19     ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2021-01-05 10:48       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-02 15:43         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-04 21:20           ` Jonathan Corbet
2021-02-15 14:19 ` [PATCH] Documentation/submitting-patches: Extend commit message layout description Borislav Petkov
2021-02-25 11:40   ` Robert Richter
2021-03-01 22:10   ` Jonathan Corbet
2021-04-13 11:38 ` [PATCH] Documentation/submitting-patches: Document RESEND tag on patches Borislav Petkov
2021-04-13 21:02   ` Jonathan Corbet
2021-04-15  6:05     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-05-31 14:35       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-06-01 22:27         ` Jonathan Corbet
2021-06-01 22:31           ` Randy Dunlap
2021-06-01 22:37           ` Borislav Petkov

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