From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: "Alex G." <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>
Cc: Sinan Kaya <okaya@kernel.org>,
Alexandru Gagniuc <alex_gagniuc@dellteam.com>,
Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
Jan Vesely <jano.vesely@gmail.com>,
Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Austin Bolen <austin_bolen@dell.com>,
Shyam Iyer <Shyam_Iyer@dell.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Ben Skeggs <skeggsb@gmail.com>,
Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>,
Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@redhat.com>,
"A. Vladimirov" <vladimirov.atanas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Issues with "PCI/LINK: Report degraded links via link bandwidth notification"
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 15:56:19 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210129215619.GA114790@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6106d30-cbdb-6ba5-8910-086cee92875e@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 06:07:36PM -0600, Alex G. wrote:
> On 1/28/21 5:51 PM, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> > On 1/28/2021 6:39 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > AFAICT, this thread petered out with no resolution.
> > >
> > > If the bandwidth change notifications are important to somebody,
> > > please speak up, preferably with a patch that makes the notifications
> > > disabled by default and adds a parameter to enable them (or some other
> > > strategy that makes sense).
> > >
> > > I think these are potentially useful, so I don't really want to just
> > > revert them, but if nobody thinks these are important enough to fix,
> > > that's a possibility.
> >
> > Hide behind debug or expert option by default? or even mark it as BROKEN
> > until someone fixes it?
> >
> Instead of making it a config option, wouldn't it be better as a kernel
> parameter? People encountering this seem quite competent in passing kernel
> arguments, so having a "pcie_bw_notification=off" would solve their
> problems.
I don't want people to have to discover a parameter to solve issues.
If there's a parameter, notification should default to off, and people
who want notification should supply a parameter to enable it. Same
thing for the sysfs idea.
I think we really just need to figure out what's going on. Then it
should be clearer how to handle it. I'm not really in a position to
debug the root cause since I don't have the hardware or the time. If
nobody can figure out what's going on, I think we'll have to make it
disabled by default.
> As far as marking this as broken, I've seen no conclusive evidence of to
> tell if its a sw bug or actual hardware problem. Could we have a sysfs to
> disable this on a per-downstream-port basis?
>
> e.g.
> echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:04.0/bw_notification_enabled
>
> This probably won't be ideal if there are many devices downtraining their
> links ad-hoc. At worst we'd have a way to silence those messages if we do
> encounter such devices.
>
> Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-29 21:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-15 22:10 Issues with "PCI/LINK: Report degraded links via link bandwidth notification" Bjorn Helgaas
2020-01-16 2:44 ` Alex G
2020-01-18 0:18 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-01-20 2:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-01-20 15:56 ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-20 16:01 ` Alex G.
2020-01-21 11:10 ` Lucas Stach
2020-01-21 14:55 ` Alex G.
2020-02-03 1:56 ` Dave Airlie
2020-02-03 2:04 ` Dave Airlie
2020-02-03 2:07 ` Ben Skeggs
2020-02-03 21:16 ` Alex Deucher
2020-02-04 4:38 ` Lukas Wunner
2020-02-04 14:47 ` Alex Deucher
2020-01-30 16:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-22 16:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-28 23:39 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-28 23:51 ` Sinan Kaya
2021-01-29 0:07 ` Alex G.
2021-01-29 21:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2021-02-02 19:50 ` Alex G.
2021-02-02 20:16 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-02-02 20:25 ` Alex G.
2021-01-29 1:30 ` Alex Deucher
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