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From: Alexander Lobakin <alobakin@pm.me>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: "Alexander Lobakin" <alobakin@pm.me>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 net-next 09/11] skbuff: allow to optionally use NAPI cache from __alloc_skb()
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 14:28:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210211142811.1813-1-alobakin@pm.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58147c2d36ea7b6e0284d400229cd79185c53463.camel@redhat.com>

From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 11:16:40 +0100

> On Wed, 2021-02-10 at 16:30 +0000, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> > Reuse the old and forgotten SKB_ALLOC_NAPI to add an option to get
> > an skbuff_head from the NAPI cache instead of inplace allocation
> > inside __alloc_skb().
> > This implies that the function is called from softirq or BH-off
> > context, not for allocating a clone or from a distant node.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alexander Lobakin <alobakin@pm.me>
> > ---
> >  net/core/skbuff.c | 13 +++++++++----
> >  1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/net/core/skbuff.c b/net/core/skbuff.c
> > index 9e1a8ded4acc..750fa1825b28 100644
> > --- a/net/core/skbuff.c
> > +++ b/net/core/skbuff.c
> > @@ -397,15 +397,20 @@ struct sk_buff *__alloc_skb(unsigned int size, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> >  	struct sk_buff *skb;
> >  	u8 *data;
> >  	bool pfmemalloc;
> > +	bool clone;
> >  
> > -	cache = (flags & SKB_ALLOC_FCLONE)
> > -		? skbuff_fclone_cache : skbuff_head_cache;
> > +	clone = !!(flags & SKB_ALLOC_FCLONE);
> > +	cache = clone ? skbuff_fclone_cache : skbuff_head_cache;
> >  
> >  	if (sk_memalloc_socks() && (flags & SKB_ALLOC_RX))
> >  		gfp_mask |= __GFP_MEMALLOC;
> >  
> >  	/* Get the HEAD */
> > -	skb = kmem_cache_alloc_node(cache, gfp_mask & ~__GFP_DMA, node);
> > +	if (!clone && (flags & SKB_ALLOC_NAPI) &&
> > +	    likely(node == NUMA_NO_NODE || node == numa_mem_id()))
> > +		skb = napi_skb_cache_get();
> > +	else
> > +		skb = kmem_cache_alloc_node(cache, gfp_mask & ~GFP_DMA, node);
> >  	if (unlikely(!skb))
> >  		return NULL;
> >  	prefetchw(skb);
> 
> I hope the opt-in thing would have allowed leaving this code unchanged.
> I see it's not trivial avoid touching this code path.
> Still I think it would be nice if you would be able to let the device
> driver use the cache without touching the above, which is also used
> e.g. by the TCP xmit path, which in turn will not leverage the cache
> (as it requires FCLONE skbs).
> 
> If I read correctly, the above chunk is needed to
> allow __napi_alloc_skb() access the cache even for small skb
> allocation.

Not only. I wanted to give an ability to access the new feature
through __alloc_skb() too, not only through napi_build_skb() or
napi_alloc_skb().
And not only for drivers. As you may remember, firstly
napi_consume_skb()'s batching system landed for drivers, but then
it got used in network core code.
I think that some core parts may benefit from reusing the NAPI
caches. We'll only see it later.

It's not as complex as it may seem. NUMA check is cheap and tends
to be true for the vast majority of cases. Check for fclone is
already present in baseline code, even two times through the function.
So it's mostly about (flags & SKB_ALLOC_NAPI).

> Good device drivers should not call alloc_skb() in the fast
> path.

Not really. Several enterprise NIC drivers use __alloc_skb() and
alloc_skb(): ChelsIO and Mellanox for inline TLS, Netronome etc.
Lots of RDMA and wireless drivers (not the legacy ones), too.
__alloc_skb() gives you more control on NUMA node and needed skb
headroom, so it's still sometimes useful in drivers.

> What about changing __napi_alloc_skb() to always use
> the __napi_build_skb(), for both kmalloc and page backed skbs? That is,
> always doing the 'data' allocation in __napi_alloc_skb() - either via
> page_frag or via kmalloc() - and than call __napi_build_skb().
>
> I think that should avoid adding more checks in __alloc_skb() and
> should probably reduce the number of conditional used
> by __napi_alloc_skb().

I thought of this too. But this will introduce conditional branch
to set or not skb->head_frag. So one branch less in __alloc_skb(),
one branch more here, and we also lose the ability to __alloc_skb()
with decached head.

> Thanks!
> 
> Paolo

Thanks,
Al


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-11 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-10 16:28 [PATCH v4 net-next 00/11] skbuff: introduce skbuff_heads bulking and reusing Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:28 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 01/11] skbuff: move __alloc_skb() next to the other skb allocation functions Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:28 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 02/11] skbuff: simplify kmalloc_reserve() Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 03/11] skbuff: make __build_skb_around() return void Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 04/11] skbuff: simplify __alloc_skb() a bit Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 05/11] skbuff: use __build_skb_around() in __alloc_skb() Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 06/11] skbuff: remove __kfree_skb_flush() Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 07/11] skbuff: move NAPI cache declarations upper in the file Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 08/11] skbuff: introduce {,__}napi_build_skb() which reuses NAPI cache heads Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-11 12:54   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-02-11 14:38     ` Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 09/11] skbuff: allow to optionally use NAPI cache from __alloc_skb() Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-11 10:16   ` Paolo Abeni
2021-02-11 14:28     ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2021-02-11 14:55       ` Paolo Abeni
2021-02-11 15:26         ` Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 10/11] skbuff: allow to use NAPI cache from __napi_alloc_skb() Alexander Lobakin
2021-02-10 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 11/11] skbuff: queue NAPI_MERGED_FREE skbs into NAPI cache instead of freeing Alexander Lobakin

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