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From: Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@nxp.com>
To: Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] clk: imx: Fix reparenting of UARTs not associated with sdout
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 15:06:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210215130620.3la4bexamozzcvjx@fsr-ub1664-175> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHCN7xLc6dnkA5Fw4cC1_nDG3KrrR4AffUzy-8gG4UKLn-rhzQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 21-02-13 08:44:28, Adam Ford wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 3:22 PM Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 4:24 AM Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@nxp.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 21-01-21 10:56:17, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 06:14:21PM +0200, Abel Vesa wrote:
> > > > > On 21-01-20 16:50:01, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 05:28:13PM +0200, Abel Vesa wrote:
> > > > > > > On 21-01-20 16:13:05, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Abel,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 04:44:54PM +0200, Abel Vesa wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 21-01-18 08:00:43, Adam Ford wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 6:52 AM Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@nxp.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > TBH, I'm against the idea of having to call consumer API from a clock provider driver.
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm still investigating a way of moving the uart clock control calls in drivers/serial/imx,
> > > > > > > > > > > where they belong.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That makes sense.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just a thought. The uart clock used for console remains on from u-boot,
> > > > > > > > > so maybe it's enough to just add the CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED flag to all the
> > > > > > > > > uart root clocks and remove the prepare/enable calls for uart clocks
> > > > > > > > > for good. I don't really have a way to test it right now, but maybe
> > > > > > > > > you could give it a try.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That would mean that UART clocks will never be disabled, regardless of
> > > > > > > > whether they are used for console or not. That doesn't sound very
> > > > > > > > appealing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AFAIK, the only uart clock that is enabled by u-boot is the one used for
> > > > > > > the console. Later on, when the serial driver probes, it will enable it itself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unless I'm missing something, this is exactly what we need.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It might enable it, but with CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED the clock won't be
> > > > > > disabled again when a port is closed after usage
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, tell me what I'm getting wrong in the following scenario:
> > > > >
> > > > > U-boot leaves the console uart clock enabled. All the other ones are disabled.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kernel i.MX clk driver registers the uart clocks with flag CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED.
> > > >
> > > > I was wrong at that point. I originally thought the kernel will never
> > > > disable these clocks, but in fact it only leaves them enabled during the
> > > > clk_disable_unused call.
> > > >
> > > > However, when CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED becomes relevant it's too late already.
> > > > I just chatted with Lucas and he told me what the original problem was
> > > > that his patch solved.
> > > >
> > > > The problem comes when an unrelated device and the earlycon UART have
> > > > the same parent clocks. The parent clock is enabled, but it's reference
> > > > count is zero. Now when the unrelated device probes and toggles its
> > > > clocks then the shared parent clock will be disabled due to the
> > > > reference count being zero. Next time earlycon prints a character the
> > > > system hangs because the UART gates are still enabled, but their parent
> > > > clocks no longer are.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, that is indeed a problem. That's why I think there should be some
> > > kind of NOCACHE flag for almost all the types of clocks. For example,
> > > in this case, it makes sense for the core to check the bit in the register
> > > and then disable the parent based on that instead of relying on the refcount.
> > > Anyway, that's something that needs to be added in the CCF.
> > >
> > > > Overall I think Lucas' patches are still valid and relevant and with
> > > > Adams patches we even no longer have to enable all UART clocks, but
> > > > only the ones which are actually needed.
> > >
> > > Yeah, for now, I think we can go with Adam's patches. But longterm, I would
> > > like to remove the special case of the uart clocks we have right now in all
> > > the i.MX clock drivers.
> 
> I looked around at other serial drivers, and I found nothing like this
> function for enabling all UART clocks.  There are generic functions
> for registering consoles, earlycon etc, and the serial driver fetches
> the per and igp clocks from the device tree, so I attempted to simply
> remove imx_register_uart_clocks().  I booted an i.MX8M Nano from a
> fully-powered off state, and my serial console came up just fine.

Just because it works, doesn't mean it is safe. To put it simply, the
risk of some  driver disabling a clock that is parent of the uart clock
would render the earlycon broken.

> 
> I checked the clk_summary, and the clock parents are set correctly and
> the respective clock rates appear to be correct (ie, the console is
> working at the desired baud rate, and Bluetooth is happy)
> 
> Since I don't fully understand the serial driver and the clock
> dependencies, I don't want to just simply remove the function without
> discussing it, because I don't know the ramifications.  However, when
> testing on the i.MX8M Nano, things look OK.
> I also tested suspend-resume and the console UART appears to return
> and the Bluetooth UART set to 4Mbps works just fine too.
> 
> I'd like to post a V4 which just removes imx_register_uart_clocks and
> the corresponding calls to it.  I don't know enough about the older
> 32-bit i.MX SoC's, but I have build-tested it, and I can generate a
> patch. Are there any objections and/or concerns?
> 

Please don't remove the imx_register_uart_clocks for now. As much as I
would like it gone, the way the earlycon could end up broken is
so ugly that it would make it a real pain to debug it later on.

> adam
> > >
> >
> > Is the patch I submitted good enough for someone's acked-by or
> > reviewed-by, or are there changes I need to implement?
> >
> > adam
> >
> > > >
> > > > Sascha
> > > >
> > > >
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-15 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-15 18:29 [PATCH V3] clk: imx: Fix reparenting of UARTs not associated with sdout Adam Ford
2021-01-18 12:52 ` Abel Vesa
2021-01-18 14:00   ` Adam Ford
2021-01-20 14:44     ` Abel Vesa
2021-01-20 15:13       ` Sascha Hauer
2021-01-20 15:28         ` Abel Vesa
2021-01-20 15:50           ` Sascha Hauer
2021-01-20 16:14             ` Abel Vesa
2021-01-21  9:56               ` Sascha Hauer
2021-01-21 10:24                 ` Abel Vesa
2021-02-03 21:22                   ` Adam Ford
2021-02-13 14:44                     ` Adam Ford
2021-02-15 13:06                       ` Abel Vesa [this message]
2021-03-02 19:03                         ` Adam Ford
2021-03-03  8:31                           ` Abel Vesa
2021-03-10 22:24                             ` Abel Vesa
2021-03-10 22:43                               ` Adam Ford
2021-03-05 12:21 ` Ahmad Fatoum

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