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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>
Cc: Alexandru Ardelean <alexandru.ardelean@analog.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>,
	<Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>, <jic23@kernel.org>,
	<nuno.sa@analog.com>, <dragos.bogdan@analog.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 20/24] iio: buffer: add ioctl() to support opening extra buffers for IIO device
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2021 14:34:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210228143429.00001f01@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ca331-1a56-1bd3-6637-482bbf060ba9@metafoo.de>

On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 09:51:38 +0100
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de> wrote:

> On 2/15/21 11:40 AM, Alexandru Ardelean wrote:
> > With this change, an ioctl() call is added to open a character device for a
> > buffer. The ioctl() number is 'i' 0x91, which follows the
> > IIO_GET_EVENT_FD_IOCTL ioctl.
> >
> > The ioctl() will return an FD for the requested buffer index. The indexes
> > are the same from the /sys/iio/devices/iio:deviceX/bufferY (i.e. the Y
> > variable).
> >
> > Since there doesn't seem to be a sane way to return the FD for buffer0 to
> > be the same FD for the /dev/iio:deviceX, this ioctl() will return another
> > FD for buffer0 (or the first buffer). This duplicate FD will be able to
> > access the same buffer object (for buffer0) as accessing directly the
> > /dev/iio:deviceX chardev.
> >
> > Also, there is no IIO_BUFFER_GET_BUFFER_COUNT ioctl() implemented, as the
> > index for each buffer (and the count) can be deduced from the
> > '/sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:deviceX/bufferY' folders (i.e the number of
> > bufferY folders).
> >
> > Used following C code to test this:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >   #include <stdio.h>
> >   #include <stdlib.h>
> >   #include <unistd.h>
> >   #include <sys/ioctl.h>
> >   #include <fcntl.h"
> >   #include <errno.h>
> >
> >   #define IIO_BUFFER_GET_FD_IOCTL      _IOWR('i', 0x91, int)
> >
> > int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > {
> >          int fd;
> >          int fd1;
> >          int ret;
> >
> >          if ((fd = open("/dev/iio:device0", O_RDWR))<0) {
> >                  fprintf(stderr, "Error open() %d errno %d\n",fd, errno);
> >                  return -1;
> >          }
> >
> >          fprintf(stderr, "Using FD %d\n", fd);
> >
> >          fd1 = atoi(argv[1]);
> >
> >          ret = ioctl(fd, IIO_BUFFER_GET_FD_IOCTL, &fd1);
> >          if (ret < 0) {
> >                  fprintf(stderr, "Error for buffer %d ioctl() %d errno %d\n", fd1, ret, errno);
> >                  close(fd);
> >                  return -1;
> >          }
> >
> >          fprintf(stderr, "Got FD %d\n", fd1);
> >
> >          close(fd1);
> >          close(fd);
> >
> >          return 0;
> > }
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Results are:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >   # ./test 0
> >   Using FD 3
> >   Got FD 4
> >
> >   # ./test 1
> >   Using FD 3
> >   Got FD 4
> >
> >   # ./test 2
> >   Using FD 3
> >   Got FD 4
> >
> >   # ./test 3
> >   Using FD 3
> >   Got FD 4
> >
> >   # ls /sys/bus/iio/devices/iio\:device0
> >   buffer  buffer0  buffer1  buffer2  buffer3  dev
> >   in_voltage_sampling_frequency  in_voltage_scale
> >   in_voltage_scale_available
> >   name  of_node  power  scan_elements  subsystem  uevent
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > iio:device0 has some fake kfifo buffers attached to an IIO device.  
> 
> For me there is one major problem with this approach. We only allow one 
> application to open /dev/iio:deviceX at a time. This means we can't have 
> different applications access different buffers of the same device. I 
> believe this is a circuital feature.

Thats not quite true (I think - though I've not tested it).  What we don't
allow is for multiple processes to access them in an unaware fashion.
My assumption is we can rely on fork + fd passing via appropriate sockets.

> 
> It is possible to open the chardev, get the annonfd, close the chardev 
> and keep the annonfd open. Then the next application can do the same and 
> get access to a different buffer. But this has room for race conditions 
> when two applications try this at the very same time.
> 
> We need to somehow address this.

I'd count this as a bug :).  It could be safely done in a particular custom
system but in general it opens a can of worm.

> 
> I'm also not much of a fan of using ioctls to create annon fds. In part 
> because all the standard mechanisms for access control no longer work.

The inability to trivially have multiple processes open the anon fds
without care is one of the things I like most about them.

IIO drivers and interfaces really aren't designed for multiple unaware
processes to access them.  We don't have per process controls for device
wide sysfs attributes etc.  In general, it would be hard to
do due to the complexity of modeling all the interactions between the
different interfaces (events / buffers / sysfs access) in a generic fashion.

As such, the model, in my head at least, is that we only want a single
process to ever be responsible for access control.  That process can then
assign access to children or via a deliberate action (I think passing the
anon fd over a unix socket should work for example).  The intent being
that it is also responsible for mediating access to infrastructure that
multiple child processes all want to access.

As such, having one chrdev isn't a disadvantage because only one process
should ever open it at a time.  This same process also handles the
resource / control mediation.  Therefore we should only have one file
exposed for all the standard access control mechanisms.

Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-28 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 10:40 [PATCH v6 00/24] iio: core,buffer: add support for multiple IIO buffers per IIO device Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 01/24] iio: adc: ti_am335x_adc: remove omitted iio_kfifo_free() Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 11:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 02/24] iio: kfifo: add devm_iio_kfifo_buffer_setup() helper Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  8:06   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 17:45     ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 03/24] iio: make use of " Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 12:11   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-16 23:46     ` Gwendal Grignou
2021-02-18  8:22       ` Matt Ranostay
2021-02-18 13:25         ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 04/24] iio: accel: sca3000: use " Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 05/24] iio: kfifo: un-export devm_iio_kfifo_allocate() function Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 06/24] iio: buffer-dma,adi-axi-adc: introduce devm_iio_dmaengine_buffer_setup() Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 07/24] docs: ioctl-number.rst: reserve IIO subsystem ioctl() space Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 08/24] iio: core: register chardev only if needed Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 09/24] iio: core-trigger: make iio_device_register_trigger_consumer() an int return Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 10/24] iio: core: rework iio device group creation Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/24] iio: buffer: group attr count and attr alloc Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 12/24] iio: core: merge buffer/ & scan_elements/ attributes Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 13/24] iio: add reference to iio buffer on iio_dev_attr Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 14/24] iio: buffer: wrap all buffer attributes into iio_dev_attr Alexandru Ardelean
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210401073947eucas1p2c7f672475bce79dea00e9398cc562073@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-04-01  7:39     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-04-01  8:26       ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-01 11:10         ` Alexandru Ardelean
2022-09-09  8:12   ` Vaittinen, Matti
2022-09-19  8:52     ` [RFT] potential bug with IIO_CONST_ATTR usage with triggered buffers Vaittinen, Matti
2022-09-19 15:32       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-19 17:18         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-19 18:06           ` Vaittinen, Matti
2022-09-24 13:49             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-09-25 13:28               ` Alexandru Ardelean
2022-10-06  8:33       ` Claudiu.Beznea
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 15/24] iio: buffer: dmaengine: obtain buffer object from attribute Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 12:44   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 16/24] iio: core: wrap iio device & buffer into struct for character devices Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 17/24] iio: buffer: move __iio_buffer_free_sysfs_and_mask() before alloc Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 18/24] iio: dummy: iio_simple_dummy_buffer: use triggered buffer core calls Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 19/24] iio: buffer: introduce support for attaching more IIO buffers Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  8:29   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 17:46     ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 20/24] iio: buffer: add ioctl() to support opening extra buffers for IIO device Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  7:57   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 18:04     ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-28  8:51   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 14:34     ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2021-02-28 15:51       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 17:27         ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-06 17:00           ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-03-07 12:13             ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-13 18:46               ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-15  9:58             ` Sa, Nuno
2021-03-20 17:41               ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-21 17:37                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-23  9:51                   ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-03-23 11:34                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-03-24  9:10                       ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-03-27 12:00                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-02-28 18:09         ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 21/24] iio: core: rename 'dev' -> 'indio_dev' in iio_device_alloc() Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 22/24] tools: iio: make iioutils_get_type() private in iio_utils Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 23/24] tools: iio: privatize globals and functions in iio_generic_buffer.c file Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 10:40 ` [PATCH v6 24/24] tools: iio: convert iio_generic_buffer to use new IIO buffer API Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-15 13:52   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 13:57 ` [PATCH v6 00/24] iio: core,buffer: add support for multiple IIO buffers per IIO device Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-15 14:10   ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-02-16 11:19     ` Jonathan Cameron

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