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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Lee Duncan <lduncan@suse.com>, Chris Leech <cleech@redhat.com>,
	Adam Nichols <adam@grimm-co.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] seq_file: Unconditionally use vmalloc for buffer
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 12:08:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202103161205.B2181BDE38@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFBs202BqG9uqify@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 09:31:23AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 15-03-21 10:48:51, Kees Cook wrote:
> > The sysfs interface to seq_file continues to be rather fragile, as seen
> > with some recent exploits[1]. Move the seq_file buffer to the vmap area
> > (while retaining the accounting flag), since it has guard pages that
> > will catch and stop linear overflows. This seems justified given that
> > seq_file already uses kvmalloc(), is almost always using a PAGE_SIZE or
> > larger allocation, has allocations are normally short lived, and is not
> > normally on a performance critical path.
> 
> I have already objected without having my concerns really addressed.

Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore your comments!

> Your observation that most of buffers are PAGE_SIZE in the vast majority
> cases matches my experience and kmalloc should perform better than
> vmalloc. You should check the most common /proc readers at least.

Yeah, I'm going to build a quick test rig to see some before/after
timings, etc.

> Also this cannot really be done for configurations with a very limited
> vmalloc space (32b for example). Those systems are more and more rare
> but you shouldn't really allow userspace to deplete the vmalloc space.

This sounds like two objections:
- 32b has a small vmalloc space
- userspace shouldn't allow depletion of vmalloc space

I'd be happy to make this 64b only. For the latter, I would imagine
there are other vmalloc-exposed-to-userspace cases, but yes, this would
be much more direct. Is that a problem in practice?

> I would be also curious to see how vmalloc scales with huge number of
> single page allocations which would be easy to trigger with this patch.

Right -- what the best way to measure this (and what would be "too
much")?

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-16 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-15 17:48 Kees Cook
2021-03-15 18:33 ` Al Viro
2021-03-15 20:43   ` Kees Cook
2021-03-16  7:24     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-16 12:43       ` Al Viro
2021-03-16 12:55         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-16 13:01         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-16 19:18         ` Kees Cook
2021-03-17 10:44           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-16  8:31 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-16 19:08   ` Kees Cook [this message]
2021-03-17 12:08     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-17 13:34       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-17 14:44         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-17 14:56           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-17 15:20             ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-17 15:38               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-17 15:48                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-17 21:30                 ` Kees Cook
2021-03-18  8:07                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-18 15:51                     ` Kees Cook
2021-03-18 17:56                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-03-19 14:07 ` [seq_file] 5fd6060e50: stress-ng.eventfd.ops_per_sec -49.1% regression kernel test robot
2021-03-19 19:31   ` Kees Cook

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