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From: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jarkko@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	haitao.huang@intel.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/25] x86/sgx: Wipe out EREMOVE from sgx_free_epc_page()
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:36:33 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210323093633.d496ba502cc68aa496636fd5@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFjx3vixDURClgcb@google.com>

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:37:02 -0700 Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:56:37AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > Not necessarily.  This can only trigger in the host, and thus require a host
> > > reboot, if the host is also running enclaves.  If the CSP is not running
> > > enclaves, or is running its enclaves in a separate VM, then this path cannot be
> > > reached.
> > 
> > That's what I meant. Rebooting guests is a lot easier, ofc.
> > 
> > Or are you saying, this can trigger *only* when they're running enclaves
> > on the *host* too?
> 
> Yes.  Note, it's still true if you strike out the "too", KVM support is completely
> orthogonal to this code.  The purpose of this patch is to separate out the EREMOVE
> path used for host enclaves (/dev/sgx_enclave), because EPC virtualization for
> KVM will have non-buggy scenarios where EREMOVE can fail.  But the virt EPC code
> is designed to handle that gracefully.
> 
> > > EREMOVE can only fail if there's a kernel or hardware bug (or a VMM bug if
> > > running as a guest). 
> > 
> > We get those on a daily basis.
> > 
> > > IME, nearly every kernel/KVM bug that I introduced that led to EREMOVE
> > > failure was also quite fatal to SGX, i.e. this is just the canary in
> > > the coal mine.
> > >
> > > It's certainly possible to add more sophisticated error handling, e.g. through
> > > the pages onto a list and periodically try to recover them.  But, since the vast
> > > majority of bugs that cause EREMOVE failure are fatal to SGX, implementing
> > > sophisticated handling is quite low on the list of priorities.
> > > 
> > > Dave wanted the "page leaked" error message so that it's abundantly clear that
> > > the kernel is leaking pages on EREMOVE failure and that the WARN isn't "benign".
> > 
> > So this sounds to me like this should BUG too eventually.
> > 
> > Or is this one of those "this should never happen" things so no one
> > should worry?
> 
> Hmm.  I don't think it warrants BUG.  At worst, leaking EPC pages is fatal only
> to SGX.  If the underlying bug caused other fallout, e.g. didn't release a lock,
> then obviously that could be fatal to the kernel.  But I don't think there's
> ever a case where SGX being unusuable would prevent the kernel from functioning.
>  
> > Whatever it is, if an admin sees this message in dmesg and doesn't get a
> > lengthy explanation what she/he is supposed to do, I don't think she/he
> > will be as relaxed.
> > 
> > Hell, people open bugs for correctable ECCs and are asking whether they
> > need to replace their hardware.
> 
> LOL.
> 
> > So let's play this out: put yourself in an admin's shoes and tell me how
> > should an admin react when she/he sees that?
> > 
> > Should the kernel probably also say: "Don't worry, you have enough
> > memory and what's a 4K, who cares? You'll reboot eventually."
>  
> > Or should the kernel say "You need to reboot ASAP."
> > 
> > And so on...
> > 
> > So what is the scenario here and what kind of reaction is that message
> > supposed to cause, recovery action, blabla, the whole spiel?
> 
> Probably something in between.  Odds are good SGX will eventually become
> unusuable, e.g. either kernel SGX support is completely hosted, or it will soon
> leak the majority of EPC pages.  Something like this?
> 
>   "EREMOVE returned %d (0x%x), kernel bug likely.  EPC page leaked, SGX may become unusuable.  Reboot recommended to continue using SGX."

Or perhaps just stick to old behavior in original sgx_free_epc_page()?

	ret = __eremove(sgx_get_epc_virt_addr(page));
	if (WARN_ONCE(ret, "EREMOVE returned %d (0x%x)", ret, ret))
		return;

This code path is only used by host SGX driver, but not KVM. And this patch's
*main* intention is to break EREMOVE out of sgx_free_epc_page() so virtual EPC
code can use sgx_free_epc_page(). 

Improving the error msg can be a separate discussion and separate patch which
can be done in the future, and this has nothing to do with SGX virtualization
support.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-22 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19  7:29 [PATCH v3 00/25] KVM SGX virtualization support Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/25] x86/cpufeatures: Make SGX_LC feature bit depend on SGX bit Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/25] x86/cpufeatures: Add SGX1 and SGX2 sub-features Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/25] x86/sgx: Wipe out EREMOVE from sgx_free_epc_page() Kai Huang
2021-03-22 18:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-22 18:56     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-22 19:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-22 20:43         ` Kai Huang
2021-03-23 16:40           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-22 19:15       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-22 19:37         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-22 20:36           ` Kai Huang [this message]
2021-03-22 21:06           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-22 22:06             ` Kai Huang
2021-03-22 22:37               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-22 23:16                 ` Kai Huang
2021-03-23 15:45                   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-23 16:06                     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-23 16:21                       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-23 16:32                         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-23 16:51                           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-24  9:38                           ` Kai Huang
2021-03-24 10:09                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-24 10:48                               ` Kai Huang
2021-03-24 11:24                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-24 23:23                               ` Kai Huang
2021-03-24 23:39                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-24 23:46                                   ` Kai Huang
2021-03-25  8:42                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-25  9:38                                       ` Kai Huang
2021-03-25 16:52                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-24  9:28                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-23 16:38                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-23 17:02                         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-23 17:06                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-23 17:16                             ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-23 18:16                             ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-24  9:26                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-22 22:23             ` Kai Huang
2021-03-25  9:30   ` [PATCH v4 " Kai Huang
2021-03-26 19:48     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-26 20:38       ` Kai Huang
2021-03-26 21:39       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-04-07 10:03     ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:22 ` [PATCH v3 04/25] x86/sgx: Add SGX_CHILD_PRESENT hardware error code Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:22 ` [PATCH v3 05/25] x86/sgx: Introduce virtual EPC for use by KVM guests Kai Huang
2021-03-25  9:36   ` Kai Huang
2021-03-26 15:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-26 15:17     ` Dave Hansen
2021-03-26 15:29       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-26 15:35         ` Dave Hansen
2021-03-26 17:02           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-31  1:10     ` Kai Huang
2021-03-31  6:44       ` Boris Petkov
2021-03-31  6:51         ` Kai Huang
2021-03-31  7:44           ` Boris Petkov
2021-03-31  8:53             ` Kai Huang
2021-03-31 12:20               ` Kai Huang
2021-04-01 18:31                 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-01 23:38                   ` Kai Huang
2021-04-01  9:45               ` Kai Huang
2021-04-01  9:42   ` [PATCH v4 " Kai Huang
2021-04-05  9:01   ` [PATCH v3 " Borislav Petkov
2021-04-05 21:46     ` Kai Huang
2021-04-06  8:28       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-06  9:04         ` Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:22 ` [PATCH v3 06/25] x86/cpu/intel: Allow SGX virtualization without Launch Control support Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 07/25] x86/sgx: Initialize virtual EPC driver even when SGX driver is disabled Kai Huang
2021-04-02  9:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-02 11:08     ` Kai Huang
2021-04-02 11:22       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-02 11:38         ` Kai Huang
2021-04-02 15:42     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-04-02 19:08       ` Kai Huang
2021-04-02 19:19       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-02 19:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-04-02 19:46           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 08/25] x86/sgx: Expose SGX architectural definitions to the kernel Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 09/25] x86/sgx: Move ENCLS leaf definitions to sgx.h Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 10/25] x86/sgx: Add SGX2 ENCLS leaf definitions (EAUG, EMODPR and EMODT) Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 11/25] x86/sgx: Add encls_faulted() helper Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 12/25] x86/sgx: Add helper to update SGX_LEPUBKEYHASHn MSRs Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 13/25] x86/sgx: Add helpers to expose ECREATE and EINIT to KVM Kai Huang
2021-04-05  9:07   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-05 21:44     ` Kai Huang
2021-04-06  7:40       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-06  8:59         ` Kai Huang
2021-04-06  9:09           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-06  9:24             ` Kai Huang
2021-04-06  9:32               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-06  9:41                 ` Kai Huang
2021-04-06 17:08                   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-04-06 20:33                     ` Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 14/25] x86/sgx: Move provisioning device creation out of SGX driver Kai Huang
2021-04-07 10:03   ` [tip: x86/sgx] " tip-bot2 for Sean Christopherson
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 15/25] KVM: x86: Export kvm_mmu_gva_to_gpa_{read,write}() for SGX (VMX) Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 16/25] KVM: x86: Define new #PF SGX error code bit Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 17/25] KVM: x86: Add support for reverse CPUID lookup of scattered features Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 18/25] KVM: x86: Add reverse-CPUID lookup support for scattered SGX features Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 19/25] KVM: VMX: Add basic handling of VM-Exit from SGX enclave Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 20/25] KVM: VMX: Frame in ENCLS handler for SGX virtualization Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 21/25] KVM: VMX: Add SGX ENCLS[ECREATE] handler to enforce CPUID restrictions Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 22/25] KVM: VMX: Add emulation of SGX Launch Control LE hash MSRs Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 23/25] KVM: VMX: Add ENCLS[EINIT] handler to support SGX Launch Control (LC) Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:23 ` [PATCH v3 24/25] KVM: VMX: Enable SGX virtualization for SGX1, SGX2 and LC Kai Huang
2021-03-19  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 25/25] KVM: x86: Add capability to grant VM access to privileged SGX attribute Kai Huang
2021-03-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v3 00/25] KVM SGX virtualization support Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-22 10:03   ` Kai Huang
2021-03-22 10:31     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-03-26 22:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-28 21:01   ` Huang, Kai
2021-03-31 23:23     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-03-09  1:39 [PATCH v2 03/25] x86/sgx: Wipe out EREMOVE from sgx_free_epc_page() Kai Huang
2021-03-11  2:01 ` [PATCH v3 " Kai Huang
2021-03-12 21:21   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-13 10:45     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-15  7:12       ` Kai Huang
2021-03-15 13:18         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-15 13:19           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-15 20:29             ` Kai Huang
2021-03-15 22:59               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-15 23:50                 ` Kai Huang
2021-03-15 23:11               ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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