From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60F9C433E8 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6922619D7 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233202AbhCWQVF convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:21:05 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:39878 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233116AbhCWQU2 (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:20:28 -0400 Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE64561477; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 12:20:25 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Thorsten Leemhuis Cc: Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ksummit , workflows@vger.kernel.org, Konstantin Ryabitsev Subject: Re: RFC: create mailing list "linux-issues" focussed on issues/bugs and regressions Message-ID: <20210323122025.77888b49@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <62b60247-7838-a624-706e-b1a54785b2a5@leemhuis.info> References: <613fe50d-fc9c-6282-f1f3-34653acb2ee9@leemhuis.info> <62b60247-7838-a624-706e-b1a54785b2a5@leemhuis.info> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:25:15 +0100 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > I agree to the last point and yeah, maybe regressions are the more > important problem we should work on – at least from the perspective of > kernel development. But from the users perspective (and > reporting-issues.rst is written for that perspective) it feel a bit > unsatisfying to not have a solution to query for existing report, > regressions or not. Hmmmm... I think the bulk of user issues are going to be regressions. Although you may be in a better position to know for sure, but at least for me, wearing my "user" hat, the thing that gets me the most is upgrading to a new kernel and suddenly something that use to work no longer does. And that is the definition of a regression. My test boxes still run old distros (one is running fedora 13). These are the boxes that catch the most issues, and if they do, they are pretty much guaranteed to be a regression. I like the "linux-regressions" mailing list idea. -- Steve