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From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
To: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Daphne Preston-Kendall <dpk@nonceword.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bug 212265] New: clock_gettime(CLOCK_TAI, ...) should return an error when TAI has not been configured
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:26:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210329142612.GC20909@hoboy.vegasvil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YGGbAIoCKDbZLQQ0@localhost>

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:16:48AM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> There are at least two issues with handling a zero offset as a special
> value. One is that zero could potentially be a valid value in distant
> future.

I not losing sleep over that, but

> The other is that the kernel updates the offset when a leap
> second is inserted/deleted even if the original offset is zero, so
> checking for zero (in the kernel or an application) works only until
> the first leap second after boot.

oh, I didn't think of that.  I hate leap seconds.  Good thing Earth is
picking up the pace again!
 
> The kernel would need to set a flag that the offset was set. Returning
> an error in clock_gettime() until the offset is set sounds reasonable
> to me, but I have no idea how many of the existing applications it
> would break.

I think it wiser to provide another way, sysfs or something else.

Thanks,
Richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-29 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-26 11:13 [Bug 212265] New: clock_gettime(CLOCK_TAI, ...) should return an error when TAI has not been configured Thomas Gleixner
2021-03-27  3:28 ` Richard Cochran
2021-03-29  9:16   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2021-03-29  9:56     ` Daphne Preston-Kendal
2021-03-29 14:18       ` Richard Cochran
2021-03-29 14:21     ` Richard Cochran
2021-03-29 14:26     ` Richard Cochran [this message]
2021-03-29 14:57       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-03-29 15:36         ` Richard Cochran
2021-03-29 18:28           ` Thomas Gleixner

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