On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 02:09:14PM +0200, Clemens Gruber wrote:
> Hi Uwe,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 09:38:18PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > Hello Clemens,
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 02:11:38PM +0200, Clemens Gruber wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 10:10:19PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 06:39:28PM +0200, Clemens Gruber wrote:
> > > > > With your suggested round-down, the example with frequency of 200 Hz
> > > > > would no longer result in 30 but 29 and that contradicts the datasheet.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, with PRESCALE = 30 we get a frequency of 196.88 Hz and with
> > > > PRESCALE = 29 we get a frequency of 203.45 Hz. So no matter if you pick
> > > > 29 or 30, you don't get 200 Hz. And which of the two possible values is
> > > > the better one depends on the consumer, no matter what rounding
> > > > algorithm the data sheet suggests. Also note that the math here contains
> > > > surprises you don't expect at first. For example, what PRESCALE value
> > > > would you pick to get 284 Hz? [If my mail was a video, I'd suggest to
> > > > press Space now to pause and let you think first :-)] The data sheet's
> > > > formula suggests:
> > > > 
> > > > 	round(25 MHz / (4096 * 284)) - 1 = 20
> > > > 
> > > > The resulting frequency when picking PRESCALE = 20 is 290.644 Hz (so an
> > > > error of 6.644 Hz). If instead you pick PRESCALE = 21 you get 277.433 Hz
> > > > (error = 6.567 Hz), so 21 is the better choice.
> > > > 
> > > > Exercise for the reader:
> > > >  What is the correct formula to really determine the PRESCALE value that
> > > >  yields the best approximation (i.e. minimizing
> > > >  abs(real_freq - target_freq)) for a given target_freq?
> > 
> > I wonder if you tried this.
> 
> We could calculate both round-up and round-down and decide which one is
> closer to "real freq" (even though that is not the actual frequency but
> just our backwards-calculated frequency).

Yeah, the backwards-calculated frequency is the best assumption we
have.

> But I can't give you a formula with minimized abs(real_freq-target_freq)
> Is it a different round point than 0.5 and maybe relative to f ?
> 
> Please enlighten us :-)

Sorry, I cannot. I spend ~20 min today after lunch with pencil and
paper, but without success. I was aware that it isn't trivial and this
is the main reason I established round-down as default for new drivers
instead of round-nearest.

Best regards
Uwe

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