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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@cornelisnetworks.com>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Marciniszyn, Mike" <mike.marciniszyn@cornelisnetworks.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next] RDMA/rdmavt: Decouple QP and SGE lists allocations
Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 10:13:58 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210525131358.GU1002214@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <983802a6-0fa2-e181-832e-13a2d5f0fa82@cornelisnetworks.com>

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 06:02:09PM -0400, Dennis Dalessandro wrote:

> > I don't want to encourage other drivers to do the same thing.
> 
> I would imagine they would get the same push back we are getting here. I
> don't think this would encourage anyone honestly.

Then we are back to making infrastructure that is only useful for one,
arguably wrong, driver.
 
> > The correct thing to do today in 2021 is to use the standard NUMA
> > memory policy on already node-affine threads. The memory policy goes
> > into the kernel and normal non-_node allocations will obey it. When
> > combined with an appropriate node-affine HCA this will work as you are
> > expecting right now.
> 
> So we shouldn't see any issue in the normal case is what you are
> saying. I'd like to believe that, proving it is not easy though.

Well, I said you have to setup the userspace properly, I'm not sure it
just works out of the box.

> > However you can't do anything like that while the kernel has the _node
> > annotations, that overrides the NUMA memory policy and breaks the
> > policy system!
> 
> Does our driver doing this break the entire system? I'm not sure how that's
> possible. 

It breaks your driver part of it, and if we lift it to the core code
then it breaks all drivers, so it is a hard no-go.

> Is there an effort to get rid of these per node allocations so
> ultimately we won't have a choice at some point?

Unlikely, subtle stuff like this will just be left broken in drivers
nobody cares about..

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-25 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-11 10:36 [PATCH rdma-next] RDMA/rdmavt: Decouple QP and SGE lists allocations Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-11 10:59 ` Haakon Bugge
2021-05-11 12:34   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-11 19:15     ` Marciniszyn, Mike
2021-05-11 19:27       ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-11 19:39         ` Marciniszyn, Mike
2021-05-12  4:08         ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-12 12:13           ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-12 12:45             ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-11 12:26 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-11 12:34   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-12 12:25     ` Marciniszyn, Mike
2021-05-12 12:50       ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-13 19:03         ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-13 19:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-13 19:31             ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-14 13:02               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-14 14:07                 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-14 14:35                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-14 15:00                     ` Marciniszyn, Mike
2021-05-14 15:02                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-19  7:50                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-19 11:56                           ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-19 18:29                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-19 19:49                               ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-19 20:26                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-20 22:02                                   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-21  6:29                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-25 13:13                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-05-25 14:10                                       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-05-25 14:20                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-05-25 14:29                                           ` Dennis Dalessandro
2021-06-28 21:59                                           ` Marciniszyn, Mike
2021-06-28 23:19                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-07-04  6:34                                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-06-02  4:33                                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-16 10:56           ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-05-12 12:23 ` Marciniszyn, Mike

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