From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Krzysztof Halasa <khalasa@piap.pl>,
Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
<x86@kernel.org>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:19:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210618131944.GL22278@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdYHoC66K7W6mUMqKfAJkcKeopBnAq8Rq+tLSdLo61jtAQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 02:54:05PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 6:27 PM Russell King (Oracle)
> <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Arnd tells me that the current remaining ARM11MPCore users are:
> > - CNS3xxx (where there is some martinal interest in the Gateworks
> > Laguna platform)
> > - Similar for OXNAS
> > - There used to be the Realview MPCore tile - I haven't turned that on
> > in ages, and it may be that the 3V cell that backs up the encryption
> > keys is dead so it may not even boot.
>
> I have this machine with 4 x ARM11 MPCore, it works like a charm.
> I use it to test exactly this kind of stuff, I know if a kernel works
> on ARM11MPCore it works on anything because of how fragile
> it is.
>
> > So it seems to come down to a question about CNS3xxx and OXNAS. If
> > these aren't being used, maybe we can drop ARM11MPCore support and
> > the associated platforms?
> >
> > Linus, Krzysztof, Neil, any input?
>
> I don't especially need to keep the ARM11MPCore machine alive,
> it is just a testchip after all. The Oxnas is another story, that has wide
> deployment and was contributed recently (2016) and has excellent
> support in OpenWrt so I wouldn't really want
> to axe that.
So I suppose the next question is... are these issues (with userland
self-modifying code and kernel module loading) entirely theoretical
or can they be produced on real hardware?
If they can't be produced on real hardware, and we attempt to fix them
how do we know that the fix has worked...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-18 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-16 3:21 [PATCH 0/8] membarrier cleanups Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 1/8] membarrier: Document why membarrier() works Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 4:00 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 7:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 23:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 4:25 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 17:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 3/8] membarrier: Remove membarrier_arch_switch_mm() prototype in core code Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 4:26 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 17:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 4:19 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 18:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 1:37 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 2:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 5:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 6:51 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 23:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-19 2:53 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19 3:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-19 4:27 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 9:08 ` [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 10:00 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-18 3:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-18 5:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 15:02 ` [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-18 0:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 3:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-06-17 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 5/8] membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 4:28 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-16 18:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 6/8] powerpc/membarrier: Remove special barrier on mm switch Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 4:36 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 9:28 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 10:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 11:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 13:22 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 15:23 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:27 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17 8:55 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2021-06-18 12:54 ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-18 13:19 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2021-06-18 13:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-17 10:40 ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 11:23 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17 11:33 ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 13:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 13:51 ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 14:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:20 ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 15:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-18 0:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 3:21 ` [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 4:45 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 15:27 ` Christophe Leroy
2021-06-16 10:20 ` Will Deacon
2021-06-16 23:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 0:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 16:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 19:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 20:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-19 6:02 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19 15:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-20 2:10 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 15:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 0:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
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