From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8090C07E9C for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 17:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05FE61C59 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 17:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230500AbhGFReV (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Jul 2021 13:34:21 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:34456 "EHLO verein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229949AbhGFReU (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Jul 2021 13:34:20 -0400 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 80C3868BEB; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 19:31:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 19:31:37 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Jason Gunthorpe Cc: Daniel Vetter , Oded Gabbay , Oded Gabbay , "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Sumit Semwal , Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6nig?= , Gal Pressman , sleybo@amazon.com, Maling list - DRI developers , linux-rdma , Linux Media Mailing List , Doug Ledford , Dave Airlie , Alex Deucher , Leon Romanovsky , Christoph Hellwig , amd-gfx list , "moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK" Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] Add p2p via dmabuf to habanalabs Message-ID: <20210706173137.GA7840@lst.de> References: <20210705130314.11519-1-ogabbay@kernel.org> <20210706142357.GN4604@ziepe.ca> <20210706152542.GP4604@ziepe.ca> <20210706172828.GR4604@ziepe.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210706172828.GR4604@ziepe.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:28:28PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > Also on your claim that drivers/gpu is a non-upstream disaster: I've > > also learned that that for drivers/rdma there's the upstream driver, > > and then there's the out-of-tree hackjob the vendor actually > > supports. > > In the enterprise world everyone has their out of tree backport > drivers. It varies on the vendor how much deviation there is from the > upstream driver and what commercial support relationship the vendor > has with the enterprise distros. I think he means the Mellanox OFED stack, which is a complete and utter mess and which gets force fed by Mellanox/Nvidia on unsuspecting customers. I know many big HPC sites that ignore it, but a lot of enterprise customers are dumb enought to deploy it.