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From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	coresight@lists.linaro.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/11] perf auxtrace: Add compat_auxtrace_mmap__{read_head|write_tail}
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:46:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210713154602.GD748506@leoy-ThinkPad-X240s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210712144410.GE22278@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

Hi Russell,

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 03:44:11PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 06:41:05PM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
> > When perf runs in compat mode (kernel in 64-bit mode and the perf is in
> > 32-bit mode), the 64-bit value atomicity in the user space cannot be
> > assured, E.g. on some architectures, the 64-bit value accessing is split
> > into two instructions, one is for the low 32-bit word accessing and
> > another is for the high 32-bit word.
> 
> Does this apply to 32-bit ARM code on aarch64? I would not have thought
> it would, as the structure member is a __u64 and
> compat_auxtrace_mmap__read_head() doesn't seem to be marking anything
> as packed, so the compiler _should_ be able to use a LDRD instruction
> to load the value.

I think essentially your question is relevant to the memory model.
For 32-bit Arm application on aarch64, in the Armv8 architecture
reference manual ARM DDI 0487F.c, chapter "E2.2.1
Requirements for single-copy atomicity" describes:

"LDM, LDC, LDRD, STM, STC, STRD, PUSH, POP, RFE, SRS, VLDM, VLDR, VSTM,
and VSTR instructions are executed as a sequence of word-aligned word
accesses. Each 32-bit word access is guaranteed to be single-copy
atomic. The architecture does not require subsequences of two or more
word accesses from the sequence to be single-copy atomic."

So I think LDRD/STRD instruction cannot promise the atomicity for
loading or storing two words in 32-bit Arm.

And another thought is the functions compat_auxtrace_mmap__read_head()
is a general function, I avoid to write it with any architecture
specific instructions.

> Is this a problem noticed on non-ARM architectures?

No, actually we just concluded the potential issue based on the analysis
for the weak memory model.

Thanks,
Leo

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-13 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-11 10:40 [PATCH v4 00/11] perf: Refine barriers for AUX ring buffer Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] perf/ring_buffer: Add comment for barriers on " Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] coresight: tmc-etr: Add barrier after updating " Leo Yan
2021-07-12 10:40   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-07-12 10:54     ` Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] coresight: tmc-etf: Add comment for store ordering Leo Yan
2021-07-13 12:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-13 15:49     ` Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] perf/x86: Add barrier after updating bts Leo Yan
2021-07-13 13:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-11 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] perf auxtrace: Use WRITE_ONCE() for updating aux_tail Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:41 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] perf auxtrace: Drop legacy __sync functions Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:41 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] perf auxtrace: Remove auxtrace_mmap__read_snapshot_head() Leo Yan
2021-07-12 14:32   ` Adrian Hunter
2021-07-13 13:10     ` Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:41 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] perf: Cleanup for HAVE_SYNC_COMPARE_AND_SWAP_SUPPORT Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:41 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] tools: Remove feature-sync-compare-and-swap feature detection Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:41 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] perf env: Set flag for kernel is 64-bit mode Leo Yan
2021-07-12 14:37   ` Adrian Hunter
2021-07-12 18:14   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-07-13 15:09     ` Leo Yan
2021-07-13 17:31       ` Hunter, Adrian
2021-07-14 13:59         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-07-14 14:00           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-07-23  7:11             ` Leo Yan
2021-07-11 10:41 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] perf auxtrace: Add compat_auxtrace_mmap__{read_head|write_tail} Leo Yan
2021-07-12 14:44   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-07-13 15:46     ` Leo Yan [this message]
2021-07-13 16:14       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-07-13 18:13         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-14  8:40           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-07-23  7:23             ` Leo Yan
2021-07-13  7:07   ` Adrian Hunter
2021-07-13 15:48     ` Leo Yan

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