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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, bristot@redhat.com, bsegall@google.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, joshdon@google.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk, mgorman@suse.de, mingo@kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, valentin.schneider@arm.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] sched/fair: improve yield_to vs fairness
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 17:21:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210723162137.GY3809@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ddb81bc9-1429-c392-adac-736e23977c84@de.ibm.com>

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 02:36:21PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> > sched: Do not select highest priority task to run if it should be skipped
> > 
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > index 44c452072a1b..ddc0212d520f 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -4522,7 +4522,8 @@ pick_next_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *curr)
> >   			se = second;
> >   	}
> > -	if (cfs_rq->next && wakeup_preempt_entity(cfs_rq->next, left) < 1) {
> > +	if (cfs_rq->next &&
> > +	    (cfs_rq->skip == left || wakeup_preempt_entity(cfs_rq->next, left) < 1)) {
> >   		/*
> >   		 * Someone really wants this to run. If it's not unfair, run it.
> >   		 */
> > 
> 
> I do see a reduction in ignored yields, but from a performance aspect for my
> testcases this patch does not provide a benefit, while the the simple
> 	curr->vruntime += sysctl_sched_min_granularity;
> does.

I'm still not a fan because vruntime gets distorted. From the docs

   Small detail: on "ideal" hardware, at any time all tasks would have the same
   p->se.vruntime value --- i.e., tasks would execute simultaneously and no task
   would ever get "out of balance" from the "ideal" share of CPU time

If yield_to impacts this "ideal share" then it could have other
consequences.

I think your patch may be performing better in your test case because every
"wrong" task selected that is not the yield_to target gets penalised and
so the yield_to target gets pushed up the list.

> I still think that your approach is probably the cleaner one, any chance to improve this
> somehow?
> 

Potentially. The patch was a bit off because while it noticed that skip
was not being obeyed, the fix was clumsy and isolated. The current flow is

1. pick se == left as the candidate
2. try pick a different se if the "ideal" candidate is a skip candidate
3. Ignore the se update if next or last are set

Step 3 looks off because it ignores skip if next or last buddies are set
and I don't think that was intended. Can you try this?

diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index 44c452072a1b..d56f7772a607 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -4522,12 +4522,12 @@ pick_next_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *curr)
 			se = second;
 	}
 
-	if (cfs_rq->next && wakeup_preempt_entity(cfs_rq->next, left) < 1) {
+	if (cfs_rq->next && wakeup_preempt_entity(cfs_rq->next, se) < 1) {
 		/*
 		 * Someone really wants this to run. If it's not unfair, run it.
 		 */
 		se = cfs_rq->next;
-	} else if (cfs_rq->last && wakeup_preempt_entity(cfs_rq->last, left) < 1) {
+	} else if (cfs_rq->last && wakeup_preempt_entity(cfs_rq->last, se) < 1) {
 		/*
 		 * Prefer last buddy, try to return the CPU to a preempted task.
 		 */

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-23 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-12 10:14 [PATCH v2 0/9] sched: Clean up SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] sched/numa: Allow runtime enabling/disabling of NUMA balance without SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] sched: Remove sched_schedstats sysctl out from under SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] sched: Dont make LATENCYTOP select SCHED_DEBUG Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] sched: Don't " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15 16:29   ` [PATCH] sched/debug: Rename the sched_debug parameter to sched_debug_verbose Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 19:26     ` Josh Don
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-27 14:59   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-27 15:09     ` Steven Rostedt
2021-04-27 15:17       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  8:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  8:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  8:54       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  8:58         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  9:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28  9:31           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28  9:42       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-04-28 12:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 14:49           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 12:34           ` [PATCH 0/1] Improve yield (was: sched: Move SCHED_DEBUG sysctl to debugfs) Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 12:34             ` [PATCH 1/1] sched/fair: improve yield_to vs fairness Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-07 18:07               ` kernel test robot
2021-07-23  9:35               ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-23 12:36                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-23 16:21                   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2021-07-26 18:41                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-26 19:32                       ` Mel Gorman
2021-07-27  6:59                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-07-27 18:57                       ` Benjamin Segall
2021-07-28 16:23                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-08-10  8:49                           ` Vincent Guittot
2021-07-27 13:29                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 13:33                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 14:31                   ` Mel Gorman
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] sched,preempt: Move preempt_dynamic to debug.c Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] debugfs: Implement debugfs_create_str() Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] sched,debug: Convert sysctl sched_domains to debugfs Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-13 14:55   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-04-15  9:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-15 12:16       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2021-04-15 12:34       ` Valentin Schneider
2021-04-15 13:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] sched: Move /proc/sched_debug " Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:14 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] sched,fair: Alternative sched_slice() Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-12 10:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:53   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra

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