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From: Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com>
To: Dipen Patel <dipenp@nvidia.com>
Cc: thierry.reding@gmail.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	bgolaszewski@baylibre.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, robh+dt@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 03/11] hte: Add tegra194 HTE kernel provider
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 07:02:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210803230259.GB5020@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6429d26d-7835-c4f7-96b3-c8b0ba730187@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 03:40:50PM -0700, Dipen Patel wrote:
> 
> On 7/31/21 8:43 AM, Kent Gibson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 04:59:08PM -0700, Dipen Patel wrote:
> >> Thanks Kent for the review comment. My responses inline.
> >>
> >> On 7/1/21 7:21 AM, Kent Gibson wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 04:55:24PM -0700, Dipen Patel wrote:
> >>>> Tegra194 device has multiple HTE instances also known as GTE
> >>>> (Generic hardware Timestamping Engine) which can timestamp subset of
> >>>> SoC lines/signals. This provider driver focuses on IRQ and GPIO lines
> >>>> and exposes timestamping ability on those lines to the consumers
> >>>> through HTE subsystem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, with this patch, added:
> >>>> - documentation about this provider and its capabilities at
> >>>> Documentation/hte.
> >>>> - Compilation support in Makefile and Kconfig
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Dipen Patel <dipenp@nvidia.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  Documentation/hte/index.rst        |  21 ++
> >>>>  Documentation/hte/tegra194-hte.rst |  65 ++++
> >>>>  Documentation/index.rst            |   1 +
> >>>>  drivers/hte/Kconfig                |  12 +
> >>>>  drivers/hte/Makefile               |   1 +
> >>>>  drivers/hte/hte-tegra194.c         | 554 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>  6 files changed, 654 insertions(+)
> >>>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/hte/index.rst
> >>>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/hte/tegra194-hte.rst
> >>>>  create mode 100644 drivers/hte/hte-tegra194.c
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/hte/index.rst b/Documentation/hte/index.rst
> >>>> new file mode 100644
> >>>> index 000000000000..f311ebec6b47
> >>>> --- /dev/null
> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/hte/index.rst
> >>>> @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@
> >>>> +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> >>>> +
> >>>> +============================================
> >>>> +The Linux Hardware Timestamping Engine (HTE)
> >>>> +============================================
> >>>> +
> >>>> +The HTE Subsystem
> >>>> +=================
> >>>> +
> >>>> +.. toctree::
> >>>> +   :maxdepth: 1
> >>>> +
> >>>> +   hte
> >>>> +
> >>>> +HTE Tegra Provider
> >>>> +==================
> >>>> +
> >>>> +.. toctree::
> >>>> +   :maxdepth: 1
> >>>> +
> >>>> +   tegra194-hte
> >>>> \ No newline at end of file
> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/hte/tegra194-hte.rst b/Documentation/hte/tegra194-hte.rst
> >>>> new file mode 100644
> >>>> index 000000000000..c23eaafcf080
> >>>> --- /dev/null
> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/hte/tegra194-hte.rst
> >>>> @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@
> >>>> +HTE Kernel provider driver
> >>>> +==========================
> >>>> +
> >>>> +Description
> >>>> +-----------
> >>>> +The Nvidia tegra194 chip has many hardware timestamping engine (HTE) instances
> >>>> +known as generic timestamping engine (GTE). This provider driver implements
> >>>> +two GTE instances 1) GPIO GTE and 2) IRQ GTE. The both GTEs instances get the
> >>>> +timestamp from the system counter TSC which has 31.25MHz clock rate, and the
> >>>> +driver converts clock tick rate to nano seconds before storing it as timestamp
> >>>> +value.
> >>>> +
> >>>> +GPIO GTE
> >>>> +--------
> >>>> +
> >>>> +This GTE instance help timestamps GPIO in real time, for that to happen GPIO
> >>>> +needs to be configured as input and IRQ needs to ba enabled as well. The only
> >>>> +always on (AON) gpio controller instance supports timestamping GPIOs in
> >>>> +realtime and it has 39 GPIO lines. There is also a dependency on AON GPIO
> >>>> +controller as it requires very specific bits to be set in GPIO config register.
> >>>> +It in a way creates cyclic dependency between GTE and GPIO controller. The GTE
> >>>> +GPIO functionality is accessed from the GPIOLIB. It can support both the in
> >>>> +kernel and userspace consumers. In the later case, requests go through GPIOLIB
> >>>> +CDEV framework. The below APIs are added in GPIOLIB framework to access HTE
> >>>> +subsystem and GPIO GTE for in kernel consumers.
> >>>> +
> >>>> +.. c:function:: int gpiod_hw_timestamp_control( struct gpio_desc *desc, bool enable )
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	To enable HTE on given GPIO line.
> >>>> +
> >>>> +.. c:function:: u64 gpiod_get_hw_timestamp( struct gpio_desc *desc, bool block )
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	To retrieve hardwre timestamp in nano seconds.
> >>>> +
> >>>> +.. c:function:: bool gpiod_is_hw_timestamp_enabled( const struct gpio_desc *desc )
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	To query if HTE is enabled on the given GPIO.
> >>>> +
> >>>> +There is hte-tegra194-gpio-test.c, located in ``drivers/hte/`` directory, test
> >>>> +driver which demonstrates above APIs for the Jetson AGX platform. For userspace
> >>>> +consumers, GPIO_V2_LINE_FLAG_EVENT_CLOCK_HARDWARE flag must be specifed during
> >>>> +IOCTL calls, refer ``tools/gpio/gpio-event-mon.c``, which returns the timestamp
> >>>> +in nano second.
> >>>> +
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>> +
> >>>> +static void tegra_hte_read_fifo(struct tegra_hte_soc *gs)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	u32 tsh, tsl, src, pv, cv, acv, slice, bit_index, line_id;
> >>>> +	u64 tsc;
> >>>> +	int dir;
> >>>> +	struct hte_ts_data el;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	while ((tegra_hte_readl(gs, HTE_TESTATUS) >>
> >>>> +		HTE_TESTATUS_OCCUPANCY_SHIFT) &
> >>>> +		HTE_TESTATUS_OCCUPANCY_MASK) {
> >>>> +		tsh = tegra_hte_readl(gs, HTE_TETSCH);
> >>>> +		tsl = tegra_hte_readl(gs, HTE_TETSCL);
> >>>> +		tsc = (((u64)tsh << 32) | tsl);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +		src = tegra_hte_readl(gs, HTE_TESRC);
> >>>> +		slice = (src >> HTE_TESRC_SLICE_SHIFT) &
> >>>> +			    HTE_TESRC_SLICE_DEFAULT_MASK;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +		pv = tegra_hte_readl(gs, HTE_TEPCV);
> >>>> +		cv = tegra_hte_readl(gs, HTE_TECCV);
> >>>> +		acv = pv ^ cv;
> >>>> +		while (acv) {
> >>>> +			bit_index = __builtin_ctz(acv);
> >>>> +			if ((pv >> bit_index) & BIT(0))
> >>>> +				dir = HTE_EVENT_RISING_EDGE;
> >>>> +			else
> >>>> +				dir = HTE_EVENT_FALLING_EDGE;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +			line_id = bit_index + (slice << 5);
> >>>> +			el.dir = dir;
> >>>> +			el.tsc = tsc << HTE_TS_NS_SHIFT;
> >>>> +			hte_push_ts_ns_atomic(gs->chip, line_id, &el,
> >>>> +					      sizeof(el));
> >>>> +			acv &= ~BIT(bit_index);
> >>>> +		}
> >>>> +		tegra_hte_writel(gs, HTE_TECMD, HTE_TECMD_CMD_POP);
> >>>> +	}
> >>>> +}
> >>> What happens when the hte_push_ts_ns_atomic() fails?
> >>> The timestamp will be quietly dropped?
> >>> What happens when the interrupt corresponding to that dropped timestamp
> >>> asks for it?  The irq handler thread will block until it can get a
> >>> timestamp from the subsequent interrupt?
> >> Two things happen, 1) at the push, HTE core increments seq counter
> >>
> >> 2) If the consumer has provided callback, it will either call that callback
> >>
> >> with HTE_TS_DROPPED or HTE_TS_AVAIL. The seq counter gives indirect
> >>
> >> view of dropped ts. However, I see the problem with the consumers not
> >>
> >> providing callback, in that case, push_ts* API just wakes up process without
> >>
> >> indicating why (assuming notify variable is true or else there is a chance for
> >>
> >> the thread to block forever). One easy approach I can think of for now is to
> >>
> >> make callback mandatory (which is optional right now), I will have to rethink
> >>
> >> that scenario and will push corrected version next RFC version.
> >>
> >> Thanks for pointing out.
> >>
> > I'm not sure you understood my question, which was intended to
> > demonstrate how an overflow here would break your gpio integration, but I
> > am certain that I don't understand your answer.
> >
> > Using the callback to signal fifo overflow to the consumer is crazy.
> > If the consumer is too busy to service the fifo then they probably wont
> > be prepared to deal with the callback either. And the primary purpose of
> > the fifo is to decouple the producer and consumer, so requiring a callback
> > defeats the whole purpose of having the fifo there in the first place.
> >
> >>> Which brings me back to the concern I have with the approach used in
> >>> the hte/gpiolib integration - how do you guarantee that the timestamp
> >>> returned by gpiod_get_hw_timestamp() corresponds to the irq interrupt
> >>> being handled, particularly in the face of errors such as:
> >>>  - overflows of the timestamp FIFO in the chip
> >> I currently do not have any indication mechanism as the providers
> >>
> >> I am dealing with right now does not have overflow hardware detection
> >>
> >> support. If the chip supports, it should be easy to integrate that feature.
> >>
> >> I will provide some hook function or change in push_* API to accommodate
> >>
> >> this in next version of RFC.
> >>
> >>>  - overflows of software FIFOs as here
> >> HTE core records sequence counter as well it callsback the consumer with
> >>
> >> HTE_TS_DROPPED.
> >>
> >>>  - lost interupts (if the hw generates interrupts faster than the CPU
> >>>    can service them)
> >> For this, I have no idea unless hardware supports some sort of mechanism
> >>
> >> to catch that. For the current providers, as soon as it detects changes on lines
> >>
> >> it captures TS in its hw fifo. Its interrupt gets generated based on threshold
> >>
> >> set in that hw fifo. This interrupt is different than the lines of actual device
> >>
> >> that is why I said I have no idea how we can tackle that. Let me know if there
> >>
> >> is any idea or reference of the codes which does tackle this.
> >>
> > As far as I am aware there is no solution, given your suggested
> > architecture.
> >
> > Your architecture is inherently fragile, as you try to use one stream
> > of data (the timestamp fifo) to provide supplementary info for another
> > (the physical irq).  Guaranteeing that the two are synchronised is
> > impossible - even if you can get them synced at some point, they can
> > fall out of sync without any indication.
> > That is a recipe for Ingenuity flight 6.
> >
> > My solution would be to use the hte timestamp fifo as the event source,
> > rather than the physical irq.  With only one event source the 
> > synchronisation problem disappears.  As to how to implement that,
> > gpiolib-cdev would request a line from the hte subsystem and register
> > and event handler for it, much as it does currently with the irq
> > subsystem. 
> Regarding "
> 
> much as it does currently with the irq
> subsystem
> 
> " Statment, do you mean edge_irq_handler?

I mean that style of API.  Obviously it would be a new handler function.
But it would perform the same as edge_irq_handler and edge_irq_thread,
just with a different event source.

> > That event handler would translate the hte events into gpio
> > events.
> >
> > You still have to deal with possible fifo overflows, but if the fifo
> > overflows result in discarding the oldest event, rather than the most
> > recent, then everything comes out in the wash.  If not then the final
> > event in a burst may not correspond to the actual state so you need
> > some additional mechanism to address that.
> > Either way the consumer needs to be aware that events may be lost - but
> > with the event seqno for consumers to detect those lost events we
> > already have that covered.
> >
> >> Regarding HTE/GPIOLIB integration comment:
> >>
> >> You are right, currently, I have only tsc field returned from struct hte_ts_data
> >>
> >> to gpiolib. If I can extend that to return hte_ts_data structure which has seq
> >>
> >> counter, which I believe can be used to track the overflow situation. The
> >>
> >> dropped scenario can be easily tracked if gpiolib can be notified with above
> >>
> >> mentioned DROP event through callback. If that is the case, is it ok to have
> >>
> >> some sort of callback per gpio in gpiolib?
> >>
> > Even better if you can provide the whole struct hte_ts_data so we have
> > the direction as well (assuming all hte providers provide direction?).
> > Otherwise gpiolib-cdev may need to read the physical line state and that
> > may have changed since the hardware captured the event.
> > In the solution I outlined above, the hte_ts_data would be provided to
> > the event handler registered by gpiolib-cdev.
> 
> How is this event handler different then cdev providing callback to
> 
> hte core? I am guessing even cdev registers event handler with HTE
> 
> it is some sort of function  pointer so does callbacks.
> 

If you mean your proposed callbacks, well for starters it wouldn't pass
it a DROPPED event.

But other than that registering a handler it essentially a callback.
Your existing callback is at interrupt context, right?
The irq subsystem also has provision for handling the event at
interrupt context or thread context - gpiolib-cdev uses both.
You might want to do the same here - depends on what your expected
consumers would prefer.

Way back when you initially proposed this I said "this is an irq problem",
meaning that it makes sense to me that this should be integrated with irq,
and provide functions to return additional detail to the irq handlers,
such as the event timestamp.
Not sure what the irq guys think of that - it may be simpler and
clearer to provide a separate subsystem.
Either way, a hte subsystem that provides an irq-like API might be a
good way to start.

Cheers,
Kent.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-03 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-25 23:55 [RFC 00/11] Intro to Hardware timestamping engine Dipen Patel
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 01/11] Documentation: Add HTE subsystem guide Dipen Patel
2021-07-04 18:55   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-07-27 23:44     ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-01 15:24       ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 02/11] drivers: Add HTE subsystem Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 17:40   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-07-04 20:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-07-04 20:45     ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-07-28  5:12       ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-01 16:48         ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-07-28  4:38     ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-01 16:13       ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-09-14  5:43         ` Dipen Patel
2021-09-26 15:42           ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-07-05  7:30   ` Greg KH
2021-07-28  0:34     ` Dipen Patel
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 03/11] hte: Add tegra194 HTE kernel provider Dipen Patel
2021-07-01 14:21   ` Kent Gibson
2021-07-28 23:59     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-30  7:01       ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-31 15:43       ` Kent Gibson
2021-08-03 22:40         ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-03 23:02           ` Kent Gibson [this message]
2021-08-07  2:41         ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-07  3:07           ` Kent Gibson
2021-08-07  4:52             ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-07  4:51               ` Kent Gibson
2021-08-07  5:35                 ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-07  5:42                   ` Kent Gibson
2021-08-07  5:47                   ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-04 20:27   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-07-29  2:42     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-08 23:33   ` Michał Mirosław
2021-07-29  2:43     ` Dipen Patel
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 04/11] dt-bindings: Add HTE bindings Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 10:56   ` Linus Walleij
2021-07-30  1:32     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-01 14:02   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-30  1:56     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-01 15:54   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-30  1:58     ` Dipen Patel
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 05/11] hte: Add Tegra194 IRQ HTE test driver Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 17:42   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 06/11] gpiolib: Add HTE support Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 11:41   ` Linus Walleij
2021-07-01 14:24   ` Kent Gibson
2021-07-30  2:25     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-31  5:13       ` Kent Gibson
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 07/11] gpio: tegra186: Add HTE in gpio-tegra186 driver Dipen Patel
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 08/11] gpiolib: cdev: Add hardware timestamp clock type Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 11:38   ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-27 11:49   ` Linus Walleij
2021-07-30  3:16     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-01 14:24   ` Kent Gibson
2021-07-30  3:07     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-31  6:05       ` Kent Gibson
2021-08-03 22:41         ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-03 22:38           ` Kent Gibson
2021-07-09  8:30   ` Jon Hunter
2021-07-30  2:33     ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-03 16:42       ` Jon Hunter
2021-08-03 22:51         ` Dipen Patel
2021-08-03 23:09           ` Kent Gibson
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 09/11] tools: gpio: Add new hardware " Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 11:36   ` Linus Walleij
2021-07-30  3:17     ` Dipen Patel
2021-07-31  6:16       ` Kent Gibson
2021-08-11  9:11         ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 10/11] hte: Add tegra GPIO HTE test driver Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 17:43   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-06-25 23:55 ` [RFC 11/11] MAINTAINERS: Added HTE Subsystem Dipen Patel
2021-06-27 13:07 ` [RFC 00/11] Intro to Hardware timestamping engine Andy Shevchenko
2021-06-27 14:40   ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-28 12:02     ` Andy Shevchenko

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