From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,INCLUDES_PATCH, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239D6C4338F for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCD960F6F for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2021 11:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S236967AbhHDLcS (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Aug 2021 07:32:18 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:42414 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232885AbhHDLcR (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Aug 2021 07:32:17 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-x32c.google.com (mail-wm1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32c]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16DF1C0613D5 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2021 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id l34-20020a05600c1d22b02902573c214807so3688891wms.2 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=ITDkwNA0SrOgCt3xKILvBBfzHrvWx642jjB6XzvfTgw=; b=IIqny7kHdyo1TIIRVeGnK30q75dZHmNBPetoYhf9xuSUVj+HW1uX+ehq0Onoi6pQ62 iYIcpwq+9tkd3XI5kMeSFTJShksqa3Bdy1vkQGXpnp0+aCyOQIkP2K3Vy1C0xnUPZDr5 3wQWyF09PDzCtQQFKlOlnFYW1VU0MV8AuQ+5nl2adtN5blwmZGX0BHfxs0M1jGPidPf4 IX6qqIQj5UAzAqiMqq21rtKWUuWwhQiEzGv3e1CrissJlKpqGdMojHcNHEtrlKIz2T00 M4AeiKpp3pPUTLcjiWSgGx1opwpdZKB9fMXnZZSBrCDBYTgADeVtGjT6ZBGX+9U/xK5g h9dQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=ITDkwNA0SrOgCt3xKILvBBfzHrvWx642jjB6XzvfTgw=; b=NXRu4erxk43iQzjzRrqL38oHcoTRAHrNbFgeTtAvqzJHt8XoALf3Z44IVgvmJVKUsV d1vwQUvj5td503bN43+Fahkrcy0/fsFvREowbcpECPIWjUz3PZkfujNxOE66lmHfAUO9 gVAbStVSQRQtHVbBBK27yhBGmq5o7BFiIIg1vGKa3+HPXy3qJ1OD55MLCgTi0aMGY7PW TafdOskrmOb94oo0ILQupkr4TZhKQ5NZ4vJeVgSik8rQEgWRnmTJg0RXeM7KOEkZXeda Mz3sxy2OlBikM/f7UGWDgbPuUNdr9IE2hi9a/ANibqDXgQt5Kz1+sWwFcdQgWKznmU3S fu1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530u9ONEbl8ssp1QcKJXaHyGVsMPorWTSN41Y0K8CgPOZbpDBo03 NIC3PBOxdZfJV6PC7CJAeII4Cw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy/y/96VfskHSf1nxHCfFTzgM1ULlQBbTosuqXARHtkKNr1SvBCiWrhCDLpQSPUVhnNS7JIXg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:ce99:: with SMTP id q25mr27852908wmj.4.1628076722619; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 04:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maple.lan (cpc141216-aztw34-2-0-cust174.18-1.cable.virginm.net. [80.7.220.175]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f3sm2350593wro.30.2021.08.04.04.32.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Aug 2021 04:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 12:31:59 +0100 From: Daniel Thompson To: John Ogness Cc: Petr Mladek , Sergey Senozhatsky , Steven Rostedt , Thomas Gleixner , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Michael Ellerman , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Paul Mackerras , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" , Jason Wessel , Douglas Anderson , Srikar Dronamraju , "Gautham R. Shenoy" , Chengyang Fan , Christophe Leroy , Bhaskar Chowdhury , Nicholas Piggin , =?utf-8?Q?C=C3=A9dric?= Le Goater , "Gustavo A. R. Silva" , Peter Zijlstra , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, kgdb-bugreport@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v1 03/10] kgdb: delay roundup if holding printk cpulock Message-ID: <20210804113159.lsnoyylifg6v5i35@maple.lan> References: <20210803131301.5588-1-john.ogness@linutronix.de> <20210803131301.5588-4-john.ogness@linutronix.de> <20210803142558.cz7apumpgijs5y4y@maple.lan> <87tuk635rb.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87tuk635rb.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 05:36:32PM +0206, John Ogness wrote: > On 2021-08-03, Daniel Thompson wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 03:18:54PM +0206, John Ogness wrote: > >> kgdb makes use of its own cpulock (@dbg_master_lock, @kgdb_active) > >> during cpu roundup. This will conflict with the printk cpulock. > > > > When the full vision is realized what will be the purpose of the printk > > cpulock? > > > > I'm asking largely because it's current role is actively unhelpful > > w.r.t. kdb. It is possible that cautious use of in_dbg_master() might > > be a better (and safer) solution. However it sounds like there is a > > larger role planned for the printk cpulock... > > The printk cpulock is used as a synchronization mechanism for > implementing atomic consoles, which need to be able to safely interrupt > the console write() activity at any time and immediately continue with > their own printing. The ultimate goal is to move all console printing > into per-console dedicated kthreads, so the primary function of the > printk cpulock is really to immediately _stop_ the CPU/kthread > performing write() in order to allow write_atomic() (from any context on > any CPU) to safely and reliably take over. I see. Is there any mileage in allowing in_dbg_master() to suppress taking the console lock? There's a couple of reasons to worry about the current approach. The first is that we don't want this code to trigger in the case when kgdb is enabled and kdb is not since it is only kdb (a self-hosted debugger) than uses the consoles. This case is relatively trivial to address since we can rename it kdb_roundup_delay() and alter the way it is conditionally compiled. The second is more of a problem however. kdb will only call into the console code from the debug master. By default this is the CPU that takes the debug trap so initial prints will work fine. However it is possible to switch to a different master (so we can read per-CPU registers and things like that). This will result in one of the CPUs that did the IPI round up calling into console code and this is unsafe in that instance. There are a couple of tricks we could adopt to work around this but given the slightly odd calling context for kdb (all CPUs quiesced, no log interleaving possible) it sounds like it would remain safe to bypass the lock if in_dbg_master() is true. Bypassing an inconvenient lock might sound icky but: 1. If the lock is not owned by any CPU then what kdb will do is safe. 2. If the lock is owned by any CPU then we have quiesced it anyway and this makes is safe for the owning CPU to share its ownership (since it isn't much different to recursive acquisition on a single CPU) > Atomic consoles are actually quite similar to the kgdb_io ops. For > example, comparing: > > serial8250_console_write_atomic() + serial8250_console_putchar_locked() > > with > > serial8250_put_poll_char() > > The difference is that serial8250_console_write_atomic() is line-based > and synchronizing with serial8250_console_write() so that if the kernel > crashes while outputing to the console, write() can be interrupted by > write_atomic() and cleanly formatted crash data can be output. > > Also serial8250_put_poll_char() is calling into __pm_runtime_resume(), > which includes a spinlock and possibly sleeping. This would not be > acceptable for atomic consoles. spinlocks aren't allowed in polled I/O either. However IIRC there is a rather nasty trick being played here to allow code sharing. I believe there was a deliberate unbalanced resume in the poll_init() function that results (again IIRC) in the PM calls in poll_char() becoming nothing but atomic add and subtract (e.g. enabling polled I/O effectively suppresses PM activity). Daniel. > Although, as Andy pointed out [0], I > will need to figure out how to deal with suspended consoles. Or just > implement a policy that registered atomic consoles may never be > suspended. > > I had not considered merging kgdb_io ops with atomic console ops. But > now that I look at it more closely, there may be some useful overlap. I > will consider this. Thank you for this idea. > > >> diff --git a/kernel/printk/printk.c b/kernel/printk/printk.c > >> index 3d0c933937b4..1b546e117f10 100644 > >> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c > >> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c > >> @@ -214,6 +215,7 @@ int devkmsg_sysctl_set_loglvl(struct ctl_table *table, int write, > >> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP > >> static atomic_t printk_cpulock_owner = ATOMIC_INIT(-1); > >> static atomic_t printk_cpulock_nested = ATOMIC_INIT(0); > >> +static unsigned int kgdb_cpu = -1; > > > > Is this the flag to provoke retriggering? It appears to be a write-only > > variable (at least in this patch). How is it consumed? > > Critical catch! Thank you. I am quite unhappy to see these hunks were > accidentally dropped when generating this series. > > @@ -3673,6 +3675,9 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__printk_cpu_trylock); > */ > void __printk_cpu_unlock(void) > { > + bool trigger_kgdb = false; > + unsigned int cpu; > + > if (atomic_read(&printk_cpulock_nested)) { > atomic_dec(&printk_cpulock_nested); > return; > @@ -3683,6 +3688,12 @@ void __printk_cpu_unlock(void) > * LMM(__printk_cpu_unlock:A) > */ > > + cpu = smp_processor_id(); > + if (kgdb_cpu == cpu) { > + trigger_kgdb = true; > + kgdb_cpu = -1; > + } > + > /* > * Guarantee loads and stores from this CPU when it was the > * lock owner are visible to the next lock owner. This pairs > @@ -3703,6 +3714,21 @@ void __printk_cpu_unlock(void) > */ > atomic_set_release(&printk_cpulock_owner, > -1); /* LMM(__printk_cpu_unlock:B) */ > + > + if (trigger_kgdb) { > + pr_warn("re-triggering kgdb roundup for CPU#%d\n", cpu); > + kgdb_roundup_cpu(cpu); > + } > } > EXPORT_SYMBOL(__printk_cpu_unlock); > > John Ogness > > [0] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YQlKAeXS9MPmE284@smile.fi.intel.com