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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Subject: Re: [patch 62/63] locking/rtmutex: Add adaptive spinwait mechanism
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 14:30:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210804123030.GD8057@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210730135208.637100512@linutronix.de>

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 03:51:09PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> 
> Going to sleep when a spinlock or rwlock is contended can be quite
> inefficient when the contention time is short and the lock owner is running
> on a different CPU. The MCS mechanism is not applicable to rtmutex based
> locks, so provide a simple adaptive spinwait mechanism for the RT specific
> spin/rwlock implementations.

A better Changelog would explain *why* OSQ does not apply. I'm thinking
this ie because the (spin) waiters can be of different priorities and we
need to ensure the highest prio waiter gets to win?

AFAICT that isn't true even without OSQ, you just get a thundering herd
and the higher prio waiter has a better chance of winning the race but
all bets are off either way around.

> [ tglx: Provide a contemporary changelog ]

It might be best to squash this and the next patch, this back and forth
doesn't make much sense at this point.

> +#ifdef CONFIG_SMP

Existing convention would make that:

#ifdef CONFIG_RTMUTEX_SPIN_ON_OWNER

But I suppose that's indeed not required if we don't use OSQ.

> +/*
> + * Note that owner is a speculative pointer and dereferencing relies
> + * on rcu_read_lock() and the check against the lock owner.
> + */
> +static bool rtlock_adaptive_spinwait(struct rt_mutex_base *lock,
> +				     struct task_struct *owner)

similarly, this would be:

  rt_mutex_spin_on_owner()

> +{
> +	bool res = true;
> +
> +	rcu_read_lock();
> +	for (;;) {
> +		/* Owner changed. Trylock again */
> +		if (owner != rt_mutex_owner(lock))
> +			break;
> +		/*
> +		 * Ensure that owner->on_cpu is dereferenced _after_
> +		 * checking the above to be valid.
> +		 */
> +		barrier();
> +		if (!owner->on_cpu) {

Esp. when this will be on rtmutex unconditionally, you want to mirror
the full set of conditions we also have on mutex_spin_on_owner():

	|| need_resched() || vcpu_is_preempted(task_cpu(owner))

> +			res = false;
> +			break;
> +		}
> +		cpu_relax();
> +	}
> +	rcu_read_unlock();
> +	return res;
> +}

Additionally, we could consider adding something that would compare the
current prio to the top_waiter prio and terminate the loop if we're
found to be of lower prio, but lifetime issues are probably going to
make that 'interesting'.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-04 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-30 13:50 [patch 00/63] locking, sched: The PREEMPT-RT locking infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 01/63] sched: Split out the wakeup state check Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 02/63] sched: Introduce TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 03/63] sched: Prepare for RT sleeping spin/rwlocks Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-01 15:30   ` Mike Galbraith
2021-08-03  9:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-03 14:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-03 14:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-03 20:11           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 04/63] sched: Rework the __schedule() preempt argument Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 05/63] sched: Provide schedule point for RT locks Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 06/63] sched/wake_q: Provide WAKE_Q_HEAD_INITIALIZER Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 07/63] media/atomisp: Use lockdep instead of *mutex_is_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 08/63] rtmutex: Remove rt_mutex_is_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 09/63] rtmutex: Convert macros to inlines Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 10/63] rtmutex: Switch to try_cmpxchg() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 11/63] rtmutex: Split API and implementation Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 12/63] rtmutex: Split out the inner parts of struct rtmutex Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 13/63] locking/rtmutex: Provide rt_mutex_slowlock_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 14/63] rtmutex: Provide rt_mutex_base_is_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 15/63] locking: Add base code for RT rw_semaphore and rwlock Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-04 19:37   ` Waiman Long
2021-08-05  9:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-05 14:59       ` Waiman Long
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 16/63] locking/rwsem: Add rtmutex based R/W semaphore implementation Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 17/63] locking/rtmutex: Add wake_state to rt_mutex_waiter Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 18/63] locking/rtmutex: Provide rt_wake_q and helpers Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 19/63] locking/rtmutex: Use rt_mutex_wake_q_head Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 20/63] locking/rtmutex: Prepare RT rt_mutex_wake_q for RT locks Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 21/63] locking/rtmutex: Guard regular sleeping locks specific functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 22/63] locking/spinlock: Split the lock types header Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-04 21:17   ` Waiman Long
2021-08-05  8:54     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 23/63] locking/rtmutex: Prevent future include recursion hell Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 24/63] locking/lockdep: Reduce includes in debug_locks.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 25/63] rbtree: Split out the rbtree type definitions Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 26/63] locking/rtmutex: Include only rbtree types Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 27/63] locking/spinlock: Provide RT specific spinlock type Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 28/63] locking/spinlock: Provide RT variant header Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 29/63] locking/rtmutex: Provide the spin/rwlock core lock function Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 30/63] locking/spinlock: Provide RT variant Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-04 23:34   ` Waiman Long
2021-08-05  8:54     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 31/63] locking/rwlock: " Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 32/63] locking/mutex: Consolidate core headers Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 33/63] locking/mutex: Move waiter to core header Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 34/63] locking/ww_mutex: Move ww_mutex declarations into ww_mutex.h Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 35/63] locking/mutex: Make mutex::wait_lock raw Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 36/63] locking/ww_mutex: Simplify lockdep annotation Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 37/63] locking/ww_mutex: Gather mutex_waiter initialization Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 38/63] locking/ww_mutex: Split up ww_mutex_unlock() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 39/63] locking/ww_mutex: Split W/W implementation logic Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 40/63] locking/ww_mutex: Remove __sched annotation Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 41/63] locking/ww_mutex: Abstract waiter iteration Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 42/63] locking/ww_mutex: Abstract waiter enqueueing Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 43/63] locking/ww_mutex: Abstract mutex accessors Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 44/63] locking/ww_mutex: Abstract mutex types Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 45/63] locking/ww_mutex: Abstract internal lock access Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 46/63] locking/ww_mutex: Implement rt_mutex accessors Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 47/63] locking/ww_mutex: Add RT priority to W/W order Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 48/63] locking/ww_mutex: Add rt_mutex based lock type and accessors Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 49/63] locking/rtmutex: Extend the rtmutex core to support ww_mutex Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 50/63] locking/ww_mutex: Implement rtmutex based ww_mutex API functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-31 13:26   ` Mike Galbraith
2021-08-01 21:18     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 51/63] locking/rtmutex: Add mutex variant for RT Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:50 ` [patch 52/63] lib/test_lockup: Adapt to changed variables Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 53/63] futex: Validate waiter correctly in futex_proxy_trylock_atomic() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 54/63] futex: Cleanup stale comments Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 55/63] futex: Correct the number of requeued waiters for PI Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 56/63] futex: Restructure futex_requeue() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 57/63] futex: Clarify comment in futex_requeue() Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 58/63] futex: Prevent requeue_pi() lock nesting issue on RT Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-02 12:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-02 13:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-02 14:35       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-02 14:34     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-03 10:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-03 21:10       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-03 10:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-03 21:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-03 11:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-03 21:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 59/63] rtmutex: Prevent lockdep false positive with PI futexes Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 60/63] preempt: Adjust PREEMPT_LOCK_OFFSET for RT Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 61/63] locking/rtmutex: Implement equal priority lock stealing Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 62/63] locking/rtmutex: Add adaptive spinwait mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-04 12:30   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-08-04 17:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-30 13:51 ` [patch 63/63] locking/rtmutex: Use adaptive spinwait for all rtmutex based locks Thomas Gleixner
     [not found] ` <20210803063217.2325-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-08-03  9:10   ` [patch 30/63] locking/spinlock: Provide RT variant Thomas Gleixner
2021-08-03 12:37 ` [patch 00/63] locking, sched: The PREEMPT-RT locking infrastructure Daniel Bristot de Oliveira

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