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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com, ndesaulniers@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] x86/retpoline: Create a retpoline thunk array
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:22:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211020192229.GP174703@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211020170956.g67xcsvvdkuqg3qa@treble>

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:09:56AM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 05:46:39PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> > On 20/10/2021 16:57, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 12:44:50PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >> Stick all the retpolines in a single symbol and have the individual
> > >> thunks as inner labels, this should guarantee thunk order and layout.
> > > How so?
> > >
> > > Just wondering what the purpose of the array is.  It doesn't seem to be
> > > referenced anywhere.
> > 
> > The array property is what makes:
> > 
> > > +	reg = (target - &__x86_indirect_thunk_rax) /
> > > +	      (&__x86_indirect_thunk_rcx - &__x86_indirect_thunk_rax);
> > 
> > safe in the next path.
> 
> The thunks were already 32-byte aligned.  I don't see how slapping a few
> unused symbols around them does anything.

Previously there were 16 (or rather 15 without rsp) separate symbols and
a toolchain might reasonably expect it could displace them however it
liked, with disregard for the relative position.

However, now they're part of a larger symbol. Any change to their
relative position would disrupt this larger _array symbol and thus not
be sound.

This is I think the same reasoning used for data symbols. On their own
there is no guarantee about their relative position wrt to one aonther,
but we're still able to do arrays because an array as a whole is a
single larger symbol.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-20 10:44 [PATCH v2 00/14] x86: Rewrite the retpoline rewrite logic Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] objtool: Tag retpoline thunk symbols Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 15:17   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-26  7:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] objtool: Explicitly avoid self modifying code in .altinstr_replacement Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] objtool: Shrink struct instruction Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] objtool,x86: Replace alternatives with .retpoline_sites Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] x86/retpoline: Remove unused replacement symbols Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] x86/asm: Fix register order Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-22 19:27   ` David Laight
2021-10-25 14:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] x86/asm: Fixup odd GEN-for-each-reg.h usage Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] x86/retpoline: Create a retpoline thunk array Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 15:57   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-20 16:46     ` Andrew Cooper
2021-10-20 17:09       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-20 19:22         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-10-20 19:43           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-20 19:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] x86/alternative: Implement .retpoline_sites support Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] x86/alternative: Handle Jcc __x86_indirect_thunk_\reg Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] x86/alternative: Try inline spectre_v2=retpoline,amd Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] x86/alternative: Add debug prints to apply_retpolines() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] x86,bugs: Unconditionally allow spectre_v2=retpoline,amd Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] bpf,x86: Respect X86_FEATURE_RETPOLINE* Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 11:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-20 16:56     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-20 19:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21  0:05     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-21  8:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 18:03         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-21 22:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 23:24             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-21 23:38               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-21 23:42                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-22 11:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-22 15:22                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-25 13:44                       ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-10-25 12:42                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 23:51         ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-22  8:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-22 21:06             ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-21  0:07   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-21  0:18     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-21  8:53       ` Peter Zijlstra

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