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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Ariadne Conill <ariadne@dereferenced.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs/exec: require argv[0] presence in do_execveat_common()
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:40:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202201260832.CCC8BB9@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YfFh6O2JS6MybamT@casper.infradead.org>

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 02:59:52PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:44:47AM +0000, Ariadne Conill wrote:
> > Interestingly, Michael Kerrisk opened an issue about this in 2008[1],
> > but there was no consensus to support fixing this issue then.
> > Hopefully now that CVE-2021-4034 shows practical exploitative use
> > of this bug in a shellcode, we can reconsider.
> > 
> > [0]: https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/exec.html
> > [1]: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8408
> 
> Having now read 8408 ... if ABI change is a concern (and I really doubt
> it is), we could treat calling execve() with a NULL argv as if the
> caller had passed an array of length 1 with the first element set to
> NULL.  Just like we reopen fds 0,1,2 for suid execs if they were closed.

I was having similar thoughts this morning. We can't actually change the
argc, though, because of the various tests (see the debian code search
links) that explicitly tests for argc == 0 in the child. But, the flaw
is not the count, but rather that argv == argp in the argc == 0 case.
(Or that argv NULL-checking iteration begins at argv[1].)

But that would could fix easily by just adding an extra NULL. e.g.:

Currently:

argc = 1
argv = "foo", NULL
envp = "bar=baz", ..., NULL

argc = 0
argv = NULL
envp = "bar=baz", ..., NULL

We could just make the argc = 0 case be:

argc = 0
argv = NULL, NULL
envp = "bar=baz", ..., NULL

We need to be careful with the stack utilization counts, though, so I'm
thinking we could actually make this completely unconditional and just
pad envp by 1 NULL on the user stack:

argv = "what", "ever", NULL
       NULL
envp = "bar=baz", ..., NULL

My only concern there is that there may be some code out there that
depends on envp immediately following the trailing argv NULL, so I think
my preference would be to pad only in the argc == 0 case and correctly
manage the stack utilization.

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-26 11:44 [PATCH v2] fs/exec: require argv[0] presence in do_execveat_common() Ariadne Conill
2022-01-26 14:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-26 17:41   ` Ariadne Conill
2022-01-26 14:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-26 16:40   ` Kees Cook [this message]
2022-01-26 16:57   ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-26 17:32     ` Ariadne Conill
2022-01-26 18:03     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-26 18:38       ` Ariadne Conill
2022-01-26 20:09 ` Kees Cook
2022-01-26 20:23   ` Ariadne Conill
2022-01-26 20:56     ` Kees Cook
2022-01-26 21:13       ` Ariadne Conill
2022-01-26 21:25         ` Kees Cook
2022-01-26 21:30           ` Ariadne Conill
2022-01-26 22:49             ` Kees Cook
2022-01-26 23:07               ` Ariadne Conill

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