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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	farman@linux.ibm.com, pmorel@linux.ibm.com,
	borntraeger@linux.ibm.com, hca@linux.ibm.com, gor@linux.ibm.com,
	gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, david@redhat.com, imbrenda@linux.ibm.com,
	vneethv@linux.ibm.com, oberpar@linux.ibm.com,
	freude@linux.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 24/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up group notifier
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:45:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220210234508.GJ4160@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bcf04ad2-848b-de03-5610-d99e3b761b10@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 01:59:35PM -0500, Matthew Rosato wrote:

> OK, looking into this, thanks for the pointer...  Sounds to me like we then
> want to make the determination upfront and then ensure the right iommu
> domain ops are registered for the device sometime before creation, based
> upon the usecase -- general userspace: s390_iommu_ops (existing), kvm:
> s390_kvm_iommu_domain (new).

Yes, that is the idea. I expect there will be many types of these
special iommu domains. eg Intel has talked about directly using the
KVM CPU page tabe as the IOMMU page table.
 
> > When the special creation flow is triggered you'd just create one of
> > these with the proper ops already setup. >
> > We are imagining a special ioctl to create these things and each IOMMU
> > HW driver can supply a unique implementation suited to their HW
> > design.
> 
> But I haven't connected the dots on this part -- At the end of the day for
> this 'special creation flow' I need the kvm + starting point of the guest
> table + format before we let the new s390_kvm_iommu_domain start doing
> automatic map/unmap during RPCIT intercept -- This initial setup has to come
> from a special ioctl as you say, but where do you see it living?  I could
> certainly roll my own via a KVM ioctl or whatever, but it sounds like you're
> also referring to a general-purpose ioctl to encompass each of the different
> unique implementations, with this s390 kvm approach being one.

So, the ioctl will need, as input, a kvm FD and an iommufd FD, and
additional IOMMU driver specific data (format, starting, etc).

The kvm supplies the context for the RPCIT to be captured in

The result is the creation of an iommu_domain inside iommufd, done by
some iommu_ops->alloc_domain_xxxx() driver callback

Which FD has the ioctl it is a bit of an aesthetic choice, but I
predict that iommufd makes the most sense since an object is being
created inside iommfd.

This flow is very similar to the 'userspace page table' flow others
are looking at, but has the extra twist that a KVM FD is needed to supply
the CPU page table.

It may overlap nicely with the intel direction I mentioned. It is just
ugly layering wise that KVM is getting shoved into platform code and
uapis all over the place, but I suppose that is unavoidable. And the
required loose coupling with the kvm module means all kinds of
symbol_gets'etc :(

Jason



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-10 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-04 21:15 [PATCH v3 00/30] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] s390/sclp: detect the zPCI load/store interpretation facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] s390/sclp: detect the AISII facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] s390/sclp: detect the AENI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] s390/sclp: detect the AISI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] s390/airq: pass more TPI info to airq handlers Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07  8:28   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] s390/airq: allow for airq structure that uses an input vector Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07  8:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07  8:42   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] s390/pci: externalize the SIC operation controls and routine Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] s390/pci: stash associated GISA designation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] s390/pci: export some routines related to RPCIT processing Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] s390/pci: stash dtsm and maxstbl Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] s390/pci: add helper function to find device by handle Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] s390/pci: get SHM information from list pci Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 10:08   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] s390/pci: return status from zpci_refresh_trans Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] vfio/pci: re-introduce CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07  8:35   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 15:43     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 17:59       ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 20:09         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-10 10:07           ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] KVM: s390: pci: add basic kvm_zdev structure Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] KVM: s390: pci: do initial setup for AEN interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] KVM: s390: pci: enable host forwarding of Adapter Event Notifications Matthew Rosato
2022-02-14 12:59   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-14 20:35     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] KVM: s390: mechanism to enable guest zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-14 13:06   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-14 13:22   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interrupt forwarding Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling IOAT assist Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] KVM: s390: pci: handle refresh of PCI translations Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] KVM: s390: intercept the rpcit instruction Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up group notifier Matthew Rosato
2022-02-08 17:43   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-08 18:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-08 19:26       ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-08 19:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-08 20:33         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-08 20:40           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-08 21:37             ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-10 11:15             ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-02-10 13:01               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-10 14:06                 ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-02-10 15:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-10 18:59                     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-10 23:45                       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up zPCI interpretive execution support Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up zPCI adapter interrupt forwarding support Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 16:38   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up zPCI IOAT assist support Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] vfio-pci/zdev: add DTSM to clp group capability Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] KVM: s390: introduce CPU feature for zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 16:36   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] MAINTAINERS: additional files related kvm s390 pci passthrough Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 13:04   ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-02-07 15:44     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:33 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato

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