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From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 06/44] mm/pkeys: Add Kconfig options for PKS
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:03:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220214230350.GW785175@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b50671d-883f-561a-bf7d-5ae01c2cc312@intel.com>

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:20:20AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 2/8/22 21:34, Ira Weiny wrote:
> >>> In other words, there are two things that must happen before the code
> >>> gets compiled in:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Arch support
> >>> 2. One or more features to use the arch support
> >> Yes.  I really think we are both say the same thing with different words.
> > Is the following more clear?
> > 
> > <commit>
> > 
> > PKS is only useful to kernel consumers and is only available on some
> > architectures.  If no kernel consumers are configured or PKS support is
> > not available the PKS code can be eliminated from the compile.
> > 
> > Define a Kconfig structure which allows kernel consumers to detect
> > architecture support (ARCH_HAS_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS) and, if available,
> > indicate that PKS should be compiled in (ARCH_ENABLE_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS).
> > 
> > In this patch ARCH_ENABLE_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS remains off until the first
> > kernel consumer sets it.
> 
> It's a bit more clear.  I wish it was more clear about the problem.  I
> think it would be well-served to add some specifics and clarify the
> *problem*.  Maybe something like:

;-(  Ok.

> 
> == Problem ==
> 
> PKS support is provided by core x86 architecture code.  Its consumers,
> however, may be far-flung device drivers like NVDIMM support.  The PKS
> core architecture code is dead weight without a consumer.

This is not the whole story though.  The far-flung device drivers don't need to
compile their PKS code, or may not be able to support a feature, if
ARCH_HAS_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS is not set.  Also, they may wish to chose a different
implementation for the same functionality if available.  So
ARCH_HAS_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS can affect more than just if PKS code is compiled.
It could affect how drivers chose to implement some higher level feature.

> 
> --- maybe add one example ---
> 
> == Solution ==
> 
> Avoid even compiling in the core PKS code if there are no consumers.

And allow users to avoid compiling PKS code on architectures which
don't support PKS.  Or chose another implementation if possible.

I'll try again.

<msg>

Consumers wishing to implement additional protections on memory pages may be
able to use PKS.  However, PKS is only available on some architectures.

In addition, PKS code, both in the core and in these consumers would be dead
code without PKS being both available and used.  Therefore, if no kernel
consumers are configured or PKS support is not available all the PKS code can
be eliminated from the compile.

Avoid using PKS if the architecture does not support it.  Furthermore,
avoid compiling any PKS code if their are no consumers configured to use 
it.

Define ARCH_HAS_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS to detect architecture support and
define ARCH_ENABLE_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS to indicate the core should compile
in support.

In this patch ARCH_ENABLE_SUPERVISOR_PKEYS remains off until the first
kernel consumer sets it.

</msg>


Ira

> 
> == Details ==

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-14 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-27 17:54 [PATCH V8 00/44] PKS/PMEM: Add Stray Write Protection ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 01/44] entry: Create an internal irqentry_exit_cond_resched() call ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 02/44] Documentation/protection-keys: Clean up documentation for User Space pkeys ira.weiny
2022-01-28 22:39   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-01 23:49     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-01 23:54       ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 03/44] x86/pkeys: Create pkeys_common.h ira.weiny
2022-01-28 22:43   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-02  1:00     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 04/44] x86/pkeys: Add additional PKEY helper macros ira.weiny
2022-01-28 22:47   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-02 20:21     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-02 20:26       ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-02 20:28         ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 05/44] x86/fpu: Refactor arch_set_user_pkey_access() ira.weiny
2022-01-28 22:50   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-02 20:22     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 06/44] mm/pkeys: Add Kconfig options for PKS ira.weiny
2022-01-28 22:54   ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-28 23:10     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-28 23:51       ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-04 19:08         ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-09  5:34           ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-14 19:20             ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-14 23:03               ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2022-01-29  0:06   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-04 19:14     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 07/44] x86/pkeys: Add PKS CPU feature bit ira.weiny
2022-01-28 23:05   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-04 19:21     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 08/44] x86/fault: Adjust WARN_ON for PKey fault ira.weiny
2022-01-28 23:10   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-04 20:06     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 09/44] x86/pkeys: Enable PKS on cpus which support it ira.weiny
2022-01-28 23:18   ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-28 23:41     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-28 23:53       ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 10/44] Documentation/pkeys: Add initial PKS documentation ira.weiny
2022-01-28 23:57   ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 11/44] mm/pkeys: Define static PKS key array and default values ira.weiny
2022-01-29  0:02   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-04 23:54     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 12/44] mm/pkeys: Define PKS page table macros ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 13/44] mm/pkeys: Add initial PKS Test code ira.weiny
2022-01-31 19:30   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-09 23:44     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 14/44] x86/pkeys: Introduce pks_write_pkrs() ira.weiny
2022-01-29  0:12   ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-29  0:16     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 15/44] x86/pkeys: Preserve the PKS MSR on context switch ira.weiny
2022-01-29  0:22   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-11  6:10     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 16/44] mm/pkeys: Introduce pks_mk_readwrite() ira.weiny
2022-01-31 23:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-18  2:22     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-01 17:40   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-18  4:39     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 17/44] mm/pkeys: Introduce pks_mk_noaccess() ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 18/44] x86/fault: Add a PKS test fault hook ira.weiny
2022-01-31 19:56   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-11 20:40     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 19/44] mm/pkeys: PKS Testing, add pks_mk_*() tests ira.weiny
2022-02-01 17:45   ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-18  5:34     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-18 15:28       ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-18 17:25         ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 20/44] mm/pkeys: Add PKS test for context switching ira.weiny
2022-02-01 17:43   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-22 21:42     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-01 17:47   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-01 19:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-18  6:03       ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-18  6:02     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 21/44] x86/entry: Add auxiliary pt_regs space ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 22/44] entry: Pass pt_regs to irqentry_exit_cond_resched() ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 23/44] entry: Add architecture auxiliary pt_regs save/restore calls ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 24/44] x86/entry: Define arch_{save|restore}_auxiliary_pt_regs() ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 25/44] x86/pkeys: Preserve PKRS MSR across exceptions ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 26/44] x86/fault: Print PKS MSR on fault ira.weiny
2022-02-01 18:13   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-18  6:01     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-18 17:28       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-18 20:20         ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-18 20:54           ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 27/44] mm/pkeys: Add PKS exception test ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 28/44] mm/pkeys: Introduce pks_update_exception() ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 29/44] mm/pkeys: Introduce PKS fault callbacks ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 30/44] mm/pkeys: Test setting a PKS key in a custom fault callback ira.weiny
2022-02-01  0:55   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-03-01 15:39     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-01 17:42   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-11 20:44     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 31/44] mm/pkeys: Add pks_available() ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 32/44] memremap_pages: Add Kconfig for DEVMAP_ACCESS_PROTECTION ira.weiny
2022-02-04 15:49   ` Dan Williams
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 33/44] memremap_pages: Introduce pgmap_protection_available() ira.weiny
2022-02-04 16:19   ` Dan Williams
2022-02-28 16:59     ` Ira Weiny
2022-03-01 15:56       ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 34/44] memremap_pages: Introduce a PGMAP_PROTECTION flag ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 35/44] memremap_pages: Introduce devmap_protected() ira.weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 36/44] memremap_pages: Reserve a PKS PKey for eventual use by PMEM ira.weiny
2022-02-01 18:35   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-04 17:12     ` Dan Williams
2022-02-05  5:40       ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-05  8:19         ` Dan Williams
2022-02-06 18:14           ` Dan Williams
2022-02-08 22:48           ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-08 23:22             ` Dan Williams
2022-02-08 23:42               ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 37/44] memremap_pages: Set PKS PKey in PTEs if PGMAP_PROTECTIONS is requested ira.weiny
2022-02-04 17:41   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-01 18:15     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:54 ` [PATCH V8 38/44] memremap_pages: Define pgmap_mk_{readwrite|noaccess}() calls ira.weiny
2022-02-04 18:35   ` Dan Williams
2022-02-05  0:09     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-05  0:19       ` Dan Williams
2022-02-05  0:25         ` Dan Williams
2022-02-05  0:27           ` Dan Williams
2022-02-05  5:55             ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-05  6:28               ` Dan Williams
2022-02-22 22:05     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:55 ` [PATCH V8 39/44] memremap_pages: Add memremap.pks_fault_mode ira.weiny
2022-02-01  1:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-03-02  0:20     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-04 19:01   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-02  2:00     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:55 ` [PATCH V8 40/44] memremap_pages: Add pgmap_protection_flag_invalid() ira.weiny
2022-02-01  1:37   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-03-02  2:01     ` Ira Weiny
2022-02-04 19:18   ` Dan Williams
2022-01-27 17:55 ` [PATCH V8 41/44] kmap: Ensure kmap works for devmap pages ira.weiny
2022-02-04 21:07   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-01 19:45     ` Ira Weiny
2022-03-01 19:50       ` Ira Weiny
2022-03-01 20:05       ` Dan Williams
2022-03-01 23:03         ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:55 ` [PATCH V8 42/44] dax: Stray access protection for dax_direct_access() ira.weiny
2022-02-04  5:19   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-01 18:13     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:55 ` [PATCH V8 43/44] nvdimm/pmem: Enable stray access protection ira.weiny
2022-02-04 21:10   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-01 18:18     ` Ira Weiny
2022-01-27 17:55 ` [PATCH V8 44/44] devdax: " ira.weiny
2022-02-04 21:12   ` Dan Williams

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