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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 15/32] vfio: introduce KVM-owned IOMMU type
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:46:27 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220318134627.GJ11336@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52762F1B395D27B1F82BBF0F8C139@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 07:01:19AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 10:55 PM
> > 
> > The first level iommu_domain has the 'type1' map and unmap and pins
> > the pages. This is the 1:1 map with the GPA and ends up pinning all
> > guest memory because the point is you don't want to take a memory pin
> > on your performance path
> > 
> > The second level iommu_domain points to a single IO page table in GPA
> > and is created/destroyed whenever the guest traps to the hypervisor to
> > manipulate the anchor (ie the GPA of the guest IO page table).
> > 
> 
> Can we use consistent terms as used in iommufd and hardware, i.e.
> with first-level/stage-1 referring to the child (GIOVA->GPA) which is
> further nested on second-level/stage-2 as the parent (GPA->HPA)?

Honestly I don't like injecting terms that only make sense for
virtualization into iommu/vfio land.

That area is intended to be general. If you use what it exposes for
virtualization, then great.

This is why I prefer to use 'user page table' when talking about the
GIOVA->GPA or Stage 1 map because it is a phrase independent of
virtualization or HW and clearly conveys what it is to the kernel and
its inherent order in the translation scheme.

The S1/S2 is gets confusing because the HW people choose those names
so that S1 is the first translation a TLP sees and S2 is the second.

But from a software model, the S2 is the first domain created and the
first level of the translation tree, while the S1 is the second domain
created and the second level of the translation tree. ie the natural
SW numbers are backwards.

And I know Matthew isn't working on HW that has the S1/S2 HW naming :)

But yes, should try harder to have good names. Maybe it will be
clearer with code.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-18 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-14 19:44 [PATCH v4 00/32] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 01/32] s390/sclp: detect the zPCI load/store interpretation facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 02/32] s390/sclp: detect the AISII facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 03/32] s390/sclp: detect the AENI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 04/32] s390/sclp: detect the AISI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 05/32] s390/airq: pass more TPI info to airq handlers Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 06/32] s390/airq: allow for airq structure that uses an input vector Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 07/32] s390/pci: externalize the SIC operation controls and routine Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 08/32] s390/pci: stash associated GISA designation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 09/32] s390/pci: export some routines related to RPCIT processing Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 10/32] s390/pci: stash dtsm and maxstbl Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 11/32] s390/pci: add helper function to find device by handle Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 12/32] s390/pci: get SHM information from list pci Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 13/32] s390/pci: return status from zpci_refresh_trans Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 14/32] iommu: introduce iommu_domain_alloc_type and the KVM type Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 10:49   ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-17  5:47     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-17 13:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18  2:23         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-18 14:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-19  7:51             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-21 14:07               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-22  7:30                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 15/32] vfio: introduce KVM-owned IOMMU type Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 13:49     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 14:38       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 16:29         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 17:25           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-17 18:51             ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 22:50   ` Alex Williamson
2022-03-14 23:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15  7:57       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-15 14:17         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 17:01           ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 13:36       ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 14:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 16:04           ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 17:18             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-18  7:01           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-18 13:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-03-19  7:47               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 16/32] vfio-pci/zdev: add function handle to clp base capability Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 17/32] KVM: s390: pci: add basic kvm_zdev structure Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 18/32] iommu/s390: add support for IOMMU_DOMAIN_KVM Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 19/32] KVM: s390: pci: do initial setup for AEN interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 20/32] KVM: s390: pci: enable host forwarding of Adapter Event Notifications Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 21/32] KVM: s390: mechanism to enable guest zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 22/32] KVM: s390: pci: routines for (dis)associating zPCI devices with a KVM Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 16:39     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 23/32] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 24/32] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interrupt forwarding Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 25/32] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling IOAT assist Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 26/32] KVM: s390: pci: handle refresh of PCI translations Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 27/32] KVM: s390: intercept the rpcit instruction Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 28/32] KVM: s390: add KVM_S390_ZPCI_OP to manage guest zPCI devices Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 29/32] vfio-pci/zdev: add DTSM to clp group capability Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 21:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-15 14:39     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-03-15 14:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 30/32] KVM: s390: introduce CPU feature for zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 31/32] MAINTAINERS: additional files related kvm s390 pci passthrough Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 32/32] MAINTAINERS: update s390 IOMMU entry Matthew Rosato
2022-03-14 19:52 ` [PATCH v4 00/32] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato

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