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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time to remove reiserfs?
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 12:57:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220402105749.GB16346@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220222221614.GC3061737@dread.disaster.area>

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> > So from my distro experience installed userbase of reiserfs is pretty small
> > and shrinking. We still do build reiserfs in openSUSE / SLES kernels but
> > for enterprise offerings it is unsupported (for like 3-4 years) and the module
> > is not in the default kernel rpm anymore.
> > 
> > So clearly the filesystem is on the deprecation path, the question is
> > whether it is far enough to remove it from the kernel completely. Maybe
> > time to start deprecation by printing warnings when reiserfs gets mounted
> > and then if nobody yells for year or two, we'll go ahead and remove it?
> 
> Yup, I'd say we should deprecate it and add it to the removal
> schedule. The less poorly tested legacy filesystem code we have to
> maintain the better.
> 
> Along those lines, I think we really need to be more aggressive
> about deprecating and removing filesystems that cannot (or will not)
> be made y2038k compliant in the new future. We're getting to close
> to the point where long term distro and/or product development life
> cycles will overlap with y2038k, so we should be thinking of
> deprecating and removing such filesystems before they end up in
> products that will still be in use in 15 years time.
> 
> And just so everyone in the discussion is aware: XFS already has a
> deprecation and removal schedule for the non-y2038k-compliant v4
> filesystem format. It's officially deprecated right now, we'll stop
> building kernels with v4 support enabled by default in 2025, and
> we're removing the code that supports the v4 format entirely in
> 2030.

Haha.

It is not up to you. You can't remove feature people are
using. Sorry. Talk to Linus about that.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
People of Russia, stop Putin before his war on Ukraine escalates.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-02 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-20 12:13 Is it time to remove reiserfs? Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-20 23:21 ` Edward Shishkin
2022-02-20 23:22   ` [PATCH] reiserfs: get rid of AOP_FLAG_CONT_EXPAND flag Edward Shishkin
2022-02-22 10:27     ` Jan Kara
2022-02-22 13:38       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-23 12:17         ` Jan Kara
2022-02-22 10:04 ` Is it time to remove reiserfs? Jan Kara
2022-02-22 22:16   ` Dave Chinner
2022-02-23 14:48     ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-02-23 15:28       ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-03-17  8:53         ` Thomas Dreibholz
2022-03-17  9:43           ` Jan Kara
2022-02-24  8:46       ` Jan Kara
2022-02-24 14:24         ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-02-24 21:06       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-25 13:10         ` Byron Stanoszek
2022-02-25 13:23           ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-25 22:56             ` Dave Chinner
2022-02-26  0:00               ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-04-02 10:57     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2022-04-05 23:04       ` Dave Chinner
2022-04-02 10:54   ` Pavel Machek
2022-04-04  8:55     ` Jan Kara
2022-04-04 10:07       ` Pavel Machek
2022-04-04 10:18         ` Willy Tarreau
2022-04-04 10:58           ` Pavel Machek
2022-04-04 13:05             ` Jan Kara
2022-04-04 12:55           ` Jan Kara
2022-04-04 13:16             ` Willy Tarreau

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