From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C204C433F5 for ; Mon, 9 May 2022 09:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233072AbiEIJzB (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 May 2022 05:55:01 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:55976 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S238203AbiEIJpd (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 May 2022 05:45:33 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f42.google.com (mail-wm1-f42.google.com [209.85.128.42]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 707DD27161; Mon, 9 May 2022 02:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-f42.google.com with SMTP id c190-20020a1c35c7000000b0038e37907b5bso10440034wma.0; Mon, 09 May 2022 02:41:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=MIo4iJaNWWiT8L0aREHccyFQKBU+YIpBaS+29bvc/oc=; b=CljfGAPOH+8alNnaPgQ/ZfOeWWCyDXqWHuFhGjBWPlxXe37Lt6k538+7qYpiz24Uxh wwCnpfootpzp2ttGz1SYDaY7+99KCpsz+fl5o1BG5x26uGCJl7WBi9pFJjh8xxmFF4A6 sfeVUHaFyqhkPTbuggUYfTosqoZ22ySb3B/8IkPYFoX6Dn/pwD0bemYob/2cu7I+NfHi D424KCaeTqVKYsMI1omxqI3JViqArtz2hVFrQUv0MNcYF+W/ts0rP9ccBbXprFueBxqw Vtall6hKoE7EYpGehq4xKEj3ijfm1tt/d1HlyDySG+5W0tIiDYhmM5WRzmDIlec7zksg pRvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533KIFwgy+QVhvkpxh3AYNikqIrIyQ27BWhMOFcfuqzwOeS77UP1 /bOyxv5AlGam4Z60i8hhRaI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz/KKcTrgbBKiQDbLem0UVallm03r9n1V5yq/fpMjCoclkduFXgbKOowrI9BpO7enF+NSOlDA== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c4c8:0:b0:394:26c5:b79e with SMTP id g8-20020a7bc4c8000000b0039426c5b79emr15176076wmk.15.1652089180818; Mon, 09 May 2022 02:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liuwe-devbox-debian-v2 ([51.145.34.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w7-20020adfee47000000b0020c5253d8efsm10503017wro.59.2022.05.09.02.39.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 09 May 2022 02:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 09:39:38 +0000 From: Wei Liu To: Kees Cook Cc: Miguel Ojeda , Linus Torvalds , Greg Kroah-Hartman , rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jarkko Sakkinen , kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org, Wei Liu Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/23] Rust support Message-ID: <20220509093938.fdrh5hhhreqi46wn@liuwe-devbox-debian-v2> References: <20220507052451.12890-1-ojeda@kernel.org> <202205070056.ACC3C3D@keescook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202205070056.ACC3C3D@keescook> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, May 07, 2022 at 01:06:18AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > On Sat, May 07, 2022 at 07:23:58AM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote: > > ## Patch series status > > > > The Rust support is still to be considered experimental. However, > > support is good enough that kernel developers can start working on the > > Rust abstractions for subsystems and write drivers and other modules. > > I'd really like to see this landed for a few reasons: > > - It's under active development, and I'd rather review the changes > "normally", incrementally, etc. Right now it can be hard to re-review > some of the "mostly the same each version" patches in the series. > > - I'd like to break the catch-22 of "ask for a new driver to be > written in rust but the rust support isn't landed" vs "the rust > support isn't landed because there aren't enough drivers". It > really feels like "release early, release often" is needed here; > it's hard to develop against -next. :) +1 to both points. :-)