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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	schnelle@linux.ibm.com, farman@linux.ibm.com,
	pmorel@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@linux.ibm.com,
	hca@linux.ibm.com, gor@linux.ibm.com,
	gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
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	imbrenda@linux.ibm.com, vneethv@linux.ibm.com,
	oberpar@linux.ibm.com, freude@linux.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 17/22] vfio-pci/zdev: add open/close device hooks
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 20:11:06 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220516231106.GQ1343366@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220516133839.7e116489.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 01:38:39PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2022 15:35:58 -0300
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 02:30:46PM -0400, Matthew Rosato wrote:
> > 
> > > Conceptually I think this would work for QEMU anyway (it always sets the kvm
> > > before we open the device).  I tried to test the idea quickly but couldn't
> > > get the following to apply on vfio-next or your vfio_group_locking -- but I
> > > understand what you're trying to do so I'll re-work and try it out.  
> > 
> > I created it on 8c9350e9bf43de1ebab3cc8a80703671e6495ab4 which is the
> > vfio_group_locking.. I can send you a github if it helps
> > https://github.com/jgunthorpe/linux/commits/vfio_group_lockin
> > 
> > > @Alex can you think of any usecase/reason why we would need to be able to
> > > set the KVM sometime after the device was opened?  Doing something like
> > > below would break that, as this introduces the assumption that the group is
> > > associated with the KVM before the device is opened (and if it's not, the
> > > device open fails).  
> > 
> > Keep in mind that GVT already hard requires this ordering to even
> > allow open_device to work - so it already sets a floor for what
> > userspace can do..
> 
> How is this going to work when vfio devices are exposed directly?  We
> currently have a strict ordering through the group to get to the
> device, and it's therefore a reasonable requirement for userspace to
> register the group with kvm before opening the device.  Is the notifier
> and async KVM registration necessary to support this dependency with
> direct device access?  I don't have as clear a picture of the ordering
> with with direct access.  Thanks,

With the device FD there is already a zombie state after open("/dev/...") but
before the internal open_device op is called. This state ends after
the iommufd is assigned, then we can go to open_device.

It is reasonable that the KVM would have to be setup before assigning
the iommfd to the device fd.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-16 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13 19:14 [PATCH v7 00/22] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 01/22] s390/sclp: detect the zPCI load/store interpretation facility Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 02/22] s390/sclp: detect the AISII facility Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 03/22] s390/sclp: detect the AENI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 04/22] s390/sclp: detect the AISI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 05/22] s390/airq: pass more TPI info to airq handlers Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 06/22] s390/airq: allow for airq structure that uses an input vector Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16 10:18   ` Thomas Huth
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 07/22] s390/pci: externalize the SIC operation controls and routine Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 08/22] s390/pci: stash associated GISA designation Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 09/22] s390/pci: stash dtsm and maxstbl Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 10/22] vfio/pci: introduce CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV_KVM Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16 16:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 11/22] KVM: s390: pci: add basic kvm_zdev structure Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:14 ` [PATCH v7 12/22] KVM: s390: pci: do initial setup for AEN interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 13/22] KVM: s390: pci: enable host forwarding of Adapter Event Notifications Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 14/22] KVM: s390: mechanism to enable guest zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16 10:49   ` Thomas Huth
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 15/22] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interrupt forwarding Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 16/22] KVM: s390: pci: add routines to start/stop interpretive execution Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 17/22] vfio-pci/zdev: add open/close device hooks Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16 17:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16 18:30     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16 18:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-16 19:38         ` Alex Williamson
2022-05-16 23:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-05-16 21:59         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16 23:05           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-17  6:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-17 12:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 18/22] vfio-pci/zdev: add function handle to clp base capability Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 19/22] vfio-pci/zdev: different maxstbl for interpreted devices Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 20/22] KVM: s390: add KVM_S390_ZPCI_OP to manage guest zPCI devices Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16  9:52   ` Thomas Huth
2022-05-16 15:35     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-05-16 16:37       ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-05-18  9:19       ` Thomas Huth
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 21/22] KVM: s390: introduce CPU feature for zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-05-13 19:15 ` [PATCH v7 22/22] MAINTAINERS: additional files related kvm s390 pci passthrough Matthew Rosato

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