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From: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <Suravee.Suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 28/29] x86/tsc: Restart NMI watchdog after refining tsc_khz
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:08:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220517220810.GB6711@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1652180070.1r874kr0tg.astroid@bobo.none>

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 09:16:21PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> Excerpts from Ricardo Neri's message of May 6, 2022 10:00 am:
> > The HPET hardlockup detector relies on tsc_khz to estimate the value of
> > that the TSC will have when its HPET channel fires. A refined tsc_khz
> > helps to estimate better the expected TSC value.
> > 
> > Using the early value of tsc_khz may lead to a large error in the expected
> > TSC value. Restarting the NMI watchdog detector has the effect of kicking
> > its HPET channel and make use of the refined tsc_khz.
> > 
> > When the HPET hardlockup is not in use, restarting the NMI watchdog is
> > a noop.
> > 
> > Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> > Cc: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
> > Cc: "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
> > Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
> > Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
> > Cc: x86@kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> > Changes since v5:
> >  * Introduced this patch
> > 
> > Changes since v4
> >  * N/A
> > 
> > Changes since v3
> >  * N/A
> > 
> > Changes since v2:
> >  * N/A
> > 
> > Changes since v1:
> >  * N/A
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c | 6 ++++++
> >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > index cafacb2e58cc..cc1843044d88 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > @@ -1386,6 +1386,12 @@ static void tsc_refine_calibration_work(struct work_struct *work)
> >  	/* Inform the TSC deadline clockevent devices about the recalibration */
> >  	lapic_update_tsc_freq();
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If in use, the HPET hardlockup detector relies on tsc_khz.
> > +	 * Reconfigure it to make use of the refined tsc_khz.
> > +	 */
> > +	lockup_detector_reconfigure();
> 
> I don't know if the API is conceptually good.
> 
> You change something that the lockup detector is currently using, 
> *while* the detector is running asynchronously, and then reconfigure
> it. 

Yes, this is what happens.

> What happens in the window? If this code is only used for small
> adjustments maybe it does not really matter

Please see my comment

> but in principle it's a bad API to export.
> 
> lockup_detector_reconfigure as an internal API is okay because it
> reconfigures things while the watchdog is stopped

I see.

> [actually that  looks untrue for soft dog which uses watchdog_thresh in
> is_softlockup(), but that should be fixed].

Perhaps there should be a watchdog_thresh_user. When the user updates it,
the detector is stopped, watchdog_thresh is updated, and then the detector
is resumed.

> 
> You're the arch so you're allowed to stop the watchdog and configure
> it, e.g., hardlockup_detector_perf_stop() is called in arch/.

I had it like this but it did not look right to me. You are right, however,
I can stop/restart the watchdog when needed.

Thanks and BR,
Ricardo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-17 22:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-05 23:59 [PATCH v6 00/29] x86: Implement an HPET-based hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 01/29] irq/matrix: Expose functions to allocate the best CPU for new vectors Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 19:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-12  0:09     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 02/29] x86/apic: Add irq_cfg::delivery_mode Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 19:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-12  0:26     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 03/29] x86/apic/msi: Set the delivery mode individually for each IRQ Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 20:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-12  0:38     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 04/29] x86/apic: Add the X86_IRQ_ALLOC_AS_NMI irq allocation flag Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 05/29] x86/apic/vector: Do not allocate vectors for NMIs Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:12   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 18:03     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-13 20:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 23:45         ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-14  8:15           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 06/29] x86/apic/vector: Implement support for NMI delivery mode Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 07/29] iommu/vt-d: Clear the redirection hint when the destination mode is physical Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 08/29] iommu/vt-d: Rework prepare_irte() to support per-IRQ delivery mode Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 09/29] iommu/vt-d: Set the IRTE delivery mode individually for each IRQ Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 10/29] iommu/vt-d: Implement minor tweaks for NMI irqs Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 18:07     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 11/29] iommu/amd: Expose [set|get]_dev_entry_bit() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 12/29] iommu/amd: Enable NMIPass when allocating an NMI irq Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:26   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 19:01     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 13/29] iommu/amd: Compose MSI messages for NMI irqs in non-IR format Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 19:03     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 14/29] x86/hpet: Expose hpet_writel() in header Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 15/29] x86/hpet: Add helper function hpet_set_comparator_periodic() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 21:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 21:29       ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-13 21:19     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-14  8:17       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-17 22:54         ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 16/29] x86/hpet: Prepare IRQ assignments to use the X86_ALLOC_AS_NMI flag Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 17/29] x86/hpet: Reserve an HPET channel for the hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 18/29] watchdog/hardlockup: Define a generic function to detect hardlockups Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 19/29] watchdog/hardlockup: Decouple the hardlockup detector from perf Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 20/29] init/main: Delay initialization of the lockup detector after smp_init() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 10:38   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-13 23:16     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-20  0:25       ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 21/29] x86/nmi: Add an NMI_WATCHDOG NMI handler category Ricardo Neri
2022-05-09 13:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-17 18:41     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 22/29] x86/watchdog/hardlockup: Add an HPET-based hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-09 14:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 22:16     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-14 14:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 23/29] x86/watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Determine if HPET timer caused NMI Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 24/29] watchdog/hardlockup: Use parse_option_str() to handle "nmi_watchdog" Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 10:46   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-13 23:17     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 25/29] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Only enable the HPET watchdog via a boot parameter Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 26/29] x86/watchdog: Add a shim hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 27/29] watchdog: Expose lockup_detector_reconfigure() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 28/29] x86/tsc: Restart NMI watchdog after refining tsc_khz Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 11:16   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-10 11:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-17 22:53       ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-17 22:08     ` Ricardo Neri [this message]
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 29/29] x86/tsc: Switch to perf-based hardlockup detector if TSC become unstable Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 12:14   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-17  3:09     ` Ricardo Neri

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