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From: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Vitaly Rodionov <vitalyr@opensource.cirrus.com>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	<patches@opensource.cirrus.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/17] ALSA: hda: cirrus: Add initial DSP support and firmware loading
Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 09:36:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220530093639.GT38351@ediswmail.ad.cirrus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czfvxtsc.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:18:43AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2022 11:08:46 +0200,
> Charles Keepax wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 06:13:38PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > On Wed, 25 May 2022 15:16:21 +0200,
> > > Vitaly Rodionov wrote:
> > > The idea to add / delete controls by the control element change
> > > doesn't sound good; as already mentioned in my reply to the previous
> > > patch set, the change of the control elements can be triggered too
> > > easily by any normal users who have the access to the sound devices.
> > > It means thousands of additions and removals per second could be
> > > attacked by any user.
> > > 
> > 
> > This I am a little less sure how we handle. I mean arn't there
> > already a few ways to do this? Both the existing ASoC wm_adsp
> > stuff, and the topology stuff (used on all new Intel platforms,
> > so very widely deployed) let you create controls by loading a
> > firmware file. Also within ALSA itself can't user-space create
> > user ALSA controls? Is there some rate limiting on that? How is
> > this issue tackled there?
> 
> The creation of kctls via firmware loading would be OK, as the code
> path can't be triggered so frequently.  Is it the case for this patch
> set?  There was too little information about the implementation (and
> more importantly, how to use the controls), so it's hard to judge...
> 

Yeah that should be what is happening here. Although it looks
like this code might be removing all the controls if the firmware
is unloaded. I will discuss that with the guys, we normal just
disable the controls on the wm_adsp stuff.

Thanks,
Charles

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-30  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-25 13:16 [PATCH v4 00/17] ALSA: hda: cirrus: Add initial DSP support and firmware loading Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] ALSA: hda: hda_cs_dsp_ctl: Add Library to support CS_DSP ALSA controls Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-26  9:30   ` Charles Keepax
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] ALSA: hda: hda_cs_dsp_ctl: Add apis to write the controls directly Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-26  9:36   ` Charles Keepax
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Save codec object inside component struct Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Add initial DSP support and firmware loading Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Save Subsystem ID inside CS35L41 Driver Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Support reading subsystem id from ACPI Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Support multiple load paths for firmware Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Support Speaker ID for laptops Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] ASoC: cs35l41: Move cs35l41 exit hibernate function into shared code Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] ASoC: cs35l41: Do not print error when waking from hibernation Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-26  9:08   ` Charles Keepax
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] ASoC: cs35l41: Add common cs35l41 enter hibernate function Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Support Hibernation during Suspend Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Read Speaker Calibration data from UEFI variables Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] ALSA: hda: hda_cs_dsp_ctl: Add fw id strings Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Add defaulted values into dsp bypass config sequence Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Support Firmware switching and reloading Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-30 11:31   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2022-05-25 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] ALSA: hda: cs35l41: Add module parameter to control firmware load Vitaly Rodionov
2022-05-27 16:13 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] ALSA: hda: cirrus: Add initial DSP support and firmware loading Takashi Iwai
2022-05-30  9:08   ` Charles Keepax
2022-05-30  9:18     ` Takashi Iwai
2022-05-30  9:36       ` Charles Keepax [this message]
2022-05-30 10:14         ` Takashi Iwai
2022-05-30 10:34           ` Charles Keepax
2022-05-30 10:45             ` Takashi Iwai
2022-05-30 10:53               ` Charles Keepax
2022-05-30 11:07                 ` Takashi Iwai
2022-05-30 11:40                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2022-06-01 16:43               ` Richard Fitzgerald
2022-06-01 19:13                 ` Takashi Iwai
2022-06-07 10:55 ` (subset) " Mark Brown

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