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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: nicolas saenz julienne <nsaenz@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, Alex Belits <abelits@marvell.com>,
	Xiongfeng Wang <wangxiongfeng2@huawei.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Yu Liao <liaoyu15@huawei.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <uladzislau.rezki@sony.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/21] rcu/context_tracking: Merge dynticks counter and context tracking states
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 16:29:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220608142927.GA1735086@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bcc4c9fa41ace6f9d98d88d24d1bd67a469cbfeb.camel@kernel.org>

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 06:15:36PM +0200, nicolas saenz julienne wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-05-31 at 16:23 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > But idle at least is an exception and CONTEXT_IDLE will remain during the
> > interrupt handling. It's not that trivial to handle the idle case because
> > ct_irq_exit() needs to know that it is called between ct_idle_enter() and
> > ct_idle_exit().
> 
> Just for the record, this behaviour was already here regardless of this series,
> so it's not something it needs to fix.

Right.

> 
> Something like this should work, right?
> 
>      ct_idle_enter()
>          //IRQ or NMI
> 	 if (__ct_state() == CONTEXT_IDLE)
> 	     ct_idle_exit()

Right but that's one more costly operation (atomic_add_return())

>          ct_irq_enter()

Ideally this should increment by RCU_DYNTICKS_IDX - CONTEXT_IDLE

> 	    ...
>          ct_irq_exit()

And this should increment by RCU_DYNTICKS_IDX + CONTEXT_IDLE

I guess the CONTEXT_IDLE state should be remembered on some per cpu
variable somewhere.

BTW one interesting optimization to do when an idle interrupt leads to
setting need_resched() would be to have:

    idle_loop() {
        while (!need_resched) {
            rcu_idle_enter();
	    mwait();
	    //IRQ {
	        rcu_irq_enter();
		do_irq()... //set need_resched()
		rcu_irq_exit() // but no need to do the atomic_add_return() here
		               // since we want to keep RCU watching as we'll
                               // escape from idle
            }
	    rcu_idle_exit() // and no need to do the atomic_add_return() here either


That's two expensive operations spared for a pretty common event.
	
	

> 	 if (needs_update_state()) //using irqentry_state_t for ex.
> 	     ct_idle_entry()
>      ct_idle_exit()
> 
> Note that it's not a big issue as we can work around this behaviour by checking
> through dynticks whether a CPU is really idle.
> 
> Do you think it's worth fixing nonetheless?

Nothing urgent for sure.

> 
> Regards,
> Nicolas

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-08 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-19 14:58 [PATCH 00/21] rcu/context-tracking: Merge RCU eqs-dynticks counter to context tracking v3 Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 01/21] context_tracking: Remove unused context_tracking_in_user() Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 02/21] rcu: Tag rcu_irq_*_irqson() as noinstr Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 03/21] context_tracking: Add a note about noinstr VS unsafe context tracking functions Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 04/21] context_tracking: Rename __context_tracking_enter/exit() to __ct_user_enter/exit() Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 05/21] context_tracking: Rename context_tracking_user_enter/exit() to user_enter/exit_callable() Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 06/21] context_tracking: Rename context_tracking_enter/exit() to ct_user_enter/exit() Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 07/21] context_tracking: Rename context_tracking_cpu_set() to ct_cpu_track_user() Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 08/21] context_tracking: Split user tracking Kconfig Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 09/21] context_tracking: Take idle eqs entrypoints over RCU Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 10/21] context_tracking: Take IRQ " Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 11/21] context_tracking: Take NMI " Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 12/21] rcu/context-tracking: Remove rcu_irq_enter/exit() Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 13/21] rcu/context_tracking: Move dynticks counter to context tracking Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 14/21] rcu/context_tracking: Move dynticks_nesting " Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 15/21] rcu/context_tracking: Move dynticks_nmi_nesting " Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 16/21] rcu/context-tracking: Move deferred nocb resched " Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 17/21] rcu/context-tracking: Move RCU-dynticks internal functions to context_tracking Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 18/21] rcu/context-tracking: Remove unused and/or unecessary middle functions Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 19/21] context_tracking: Convert state to atomic_t Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 20/21] rcu/context_tracking: Merge dynticks counter and context tracking states Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-30 18:02   ` nicolas saenz julienne
2022-05-31 14:23     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-05-31 16:15       ` nicolas saenz julienne
2022-06-08 14:29         ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2022-06-08 17:43           ` nicolas saenz julienne
2022-05-19 14:58 ` [PATCH 21/21] MAINTAINERS: Add Paul as context tracking maintainer Frederic Weisbecker

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