From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
Cc: Colin Foster <colin.foster@in-advantage.com>,
linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
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Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@nxp.com>,
Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
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Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 net-next 12/14] dt-bindings: net: dsa: ocelot: add ocelot-ext documentation
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 02:10:09 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221007231009.qgcirfezgib5vu6y@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cae8e149-ef1e-66c6-20f5-067e3fd8c586@linaro.org>
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 10:09:06AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > The /spi/soc@0 node actually has a compatible of "mscc,vsc7512" which
> > Colin did not show in the example (it is not "simple-bus"). It is covered
> > by Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/mscc,ocelot.yaml. Still waiting
> > for a better suggestion for how to name the mfd container node.
>
> Then still the /spi node does not seem related. If I understand
> correctly, your device described in this bindings is a child of soc@0.
> Sounds fine. How that soc@0 is connected to the parent - via SPI or
> whatever - is not related to this binding, is it? It is related to the
> soc binding, but not here.
It's an example, it's meant to be informative. It is the first DSA
driver of its kind. When everybody else ATM puts the ethernet-switch node
under the &spi controller node, this puts it under &spi/soc@<chip-select>/,
for reasons that have to do with scalability. If the examples aren't a
good place to make this more obvious, I don't know why we don't just
tell people to RTFD.
> > Unrelated to your "existing soc example" (the VSC9953), but relevant and
> > you may want to share your opinion on this:
> >
> > The same hardware present in the VSC7514 SoC can also be driven by an
> > integrated MIPS processor, and in that case, it is indeed expected that
> > the same dt-bindings cover both the /soc and the /spi/soc@0/ relative
> > positioning of their OF node. This is true for simpler peripherals like
> > "mscc,ocelot-miim", "mscc,ocelot-pinctrl", "mscc,ocelot-sgpio". However
> > it is not true for the main switching IP of the SoC itself.
> >
> > When driven by a switchdev driver, by the internal MIPS processor (the
> > DMA engine is what is used for packet I/O), the switching IP follows the
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/mscc,vsc7514-switch.yaml binding
> > document.
> >
> > When driven by a DSA driver (external processor, host frames are
> > redirected through an Ethernet port instead of DMA controller),
> > the switching IP follows the Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/dsa/mscc,ocelot.yaml
> > document.
> >
> > The switching IP is special in this regard because the hardware is not
> > used in the same way. The DSA dt-binding also needs the 'ethernet'
> > phandle to be present in a port node. The different placement of the
> > bindings according to the use case of the hardware is a bit awkward, but
> > is a direct consequence of the separation between DSA and pure switchdev
> > drivers that has existed thus far (and the fact that DSA has its own
> > folder in the dt-bindings, with common properties in dsa.yaml and
> > dsa-port.yaml etc). It is relatively uncommon for a switching IP to have
> > provisioning to be used in both modes, and for Linux to support both
> > modes (using different drivers), yet this is what we have here.
>
> Is there a question here to me? What shall I do with this paragraph? You
> know, I do not have a problem of lack of material to read...
For mscc,vsc7514-switch we have a switchdev driver. For mscc,vsc7512-switch,
Colin is working on a DSA driver. Their dt-bindings currently live in
different folders. The mscc,vsc7514-switch can also be used together
with a DSA driver, and support for that will inevitably be added. When
it will, how and where do you recommend the dt-bindings should be added?
In net/dsa/mscc,ocelot.yaml, together with the other switches used in
DSA mode, or in net/mscc,vsc7514-switch.yaml, because its compatible
string already exists there? We can't have a compatible string present
in multiple schemas, right?
This matters because it has implications upon what Colin should do with
the mscc,vsc7512-switch. If your answer to my question is "add $ref: dsa.yaml#
to net/mscc,vsc7514-switch.yaml", then I don't see why we wouldn't do
that now, and wait until the vsc7514 to make that move anyway.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-07 23:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-26 0:29 [PATCH v3 net-next 00/14] add support for the the vsc7512 internal copper phys Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 01/14] net: mscc: ocelot: expose ocelot wm functions Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 02/14] net: mscc: ocelot: expose regfield definition to be used by other drivers Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 03/14] net: mscc: ocelot: expose stats layout " Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 04/14] net: mscc: ocelot: expose vcap_props structure Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 05/14] net: mscc: ocelot: expose ocelot_reset routine Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 06/14] net: dsa: felix: add configurable device quirks Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 07/14] net: dsa: felix: populate mac_capabilities for all ports Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 08/14] net: dsa: felix: update init_regmap to be string-based Colin Foster
2022-09-27 17:53 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-27 18:43 ` Colin Foster
2022-09-27 18:56 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 09/14] pinctrl: ocelot: avoid macro redefinition Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 10/14] mfd: ocelot: prepend resource size macros to be 32-bit Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 11/14] mfd: ocelot: add regmaps for ocelot_ext Colin Foster
2022-09-27 21:04 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-27 23:01 ` Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 12/14] dt-bindings: net: dsa: ocelot: add ocelot-ext documentation Colin Foster
2022-09-27 20:26 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-27 22:20 ` Colin Foster
2022-10-07 22:48 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-08 17:56 ` Colin Foster
2022-09-30 21:15 ` Colin Foster
2022-10-01 0:20 ` Colin Foster
2022-10-03 15:28 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-07 20:44 ` Colin Foster
2022-10-07 22:38 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-04 11:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-04 12:15 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-04 14:59 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-04 16:01 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-05 8:09 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-07 23:10 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-10-09 15:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-05 0:08 ` Colin Foster
2022-10-05 8:03 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-05 15:44 ` Colin Foster
2022-10-05 16:09 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-08 0:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-09 16:14 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-10 13:07 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-10 13:37 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-10 17:48 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-10 18:47 ` Colin Foster
2022-10-10 19:11 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-10-11 9:53 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-18 22:28 ` Colin Foster
2023-01-19 20:21 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-01-20 18:16 ` Colin Foster
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 13/14] net: dsa: ocelot: add external ocelot switch control Colin Foster
2022-09-27 20:40 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-26 0:29 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 14/14] mfd: " Colin Foster
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