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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Stephen Brennan <stephen.s.brennan@oracle.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] fsnotify: fix softlockups iterating over d_subdirs
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 18:51:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221101175144.yu3l5qo5gfwfpatt@quack3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221028001016.332663-1-stephen.s.brennan@oracle.com>

Hi Stephen!

On Thu 27-10-22 17:10:13, Stephen Brennan wrote:
> Here is v3 of the patch series. I've taken all of the feedback,
> thanks Amir, Christian, Hilf, et al. Differences are noted in each
> patch.
> 
> I caught an obvious and silly dentry reference leak: d_find_any_alias()
> returns a reference, which I never called dput() on. With that change, I
> no longer see the rpc_pipefs issue, but I do think I need more testing
> and thinking through the third patch. Al, I'd love your feedback on that
> one especially.
> 
> Thanks,
> Stephen
> 
> Stephen Brennan (3):
>   fsnotify: Use d_find_any_alias to get dentry associated with inode
>   fsnotify: Protect i_fsnotify_mask and child flags with inode rwsem
>   fsnotify: allow sleepable child flag update

Thanks for the patches Stephen and I'm sorry for replying somewhat late.
The first patch is a nobrainer. The other two patches ... complicate things
somewhat more complicated than I'd like. I guess I can live with them if we
don't find a better solution but I'd like to discuss a bit more about
alternatives.

So what would happen if we just clear DCACHE_FSNOTIFY_PARENT_WATCHED in
__fsnotify_parent() for the dentry which triggered the event and does not
have watched parent anymore and never bother with full children walk? I
suppose your contention problems will be gone, we'll just pay the price of
dget_parent() + fsnotify_inode_watches_children() for each child that
falsely triggers instead of for only one. Maybe that's not too bad? After
all any event upto this moment triggered this overhead as well...

Am I missing something? AFAIU this would allow us to avoid the games with
the new connector flag etc... We would probably still need to avoid
softlockups when setting the flag DCACHE_FSNOTIFY_PARENT_WATCHED but that
should be much simpler (we could use i_rwsem trick like you do).

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-01 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-13 22:27 [RFC] fsnotify: allow sleepable child dentry flag update Stephen Brennan
2022-10-13 23:51 ` Al Viro
2022-11-01 21:47   ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-14  8:01 ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-17  7:59   ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-17 11:44     ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-17 16:59       ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-17 17:42         ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-17  9:09   ` Jan Kara
2022-10-18  4:12 ` [PATCH 0/2] fsnotify: fix softlockups iterating over d_subdirs Stephen Brennan
2022-10-18  4:12   ` [PATCH 1/2] fsnotify: Protect i_fsnotify_mask and child flags with inode rwsem Stephen Brennan
2022-10-18  7:39     ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-21  0:33       ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-21  7:22         ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-18  4:12   ` [PATCH 2/2] fsnotify: allow sleepable child flag update Stephen Brennan
2022-10-18  5:36     ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-27  7:50     ` kernel test robot
2022-10-27  8:44       ` Yujie Liu
2022-10-27 22:12         ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-18  8:07   ` [PATCH 0/2] fsnotify: fix softlockups iterating over d_subdirs Amir Goldstein
2022-10-18 23:52     ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-19  5:33       ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-27 22:06         ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-28  8:58           ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-21  1:03   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Stephen Brennan
2022-10-21  1:03     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] fsnotify: Use d_find_any_alias to get dentry associated with inode Stephen Brennan
2022-10-21  9:25       ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-21  1:03     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] fsnotify: Protect i_fsnotify_mask and child flags with inode rwsem Stephen Brennan
2022-10-21  4:01       ` kernel test robot
2022-10-21  8:22       ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-21  9:18         ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-25 18:02           ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-26  5:41             ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-21  9:17       ` Christian Brauner
2022-10-21  9:21         ` Amir Goldstein
2022-10-21  1:03     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] fsnotify: allow sleepable child flag update Stephen Brennan
2022-10-28  0:10     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] fsnotify: fix softlockups iterating over d_subdirs Stephen Brennan
2022-10-28  0:10       ` [PATCH v3 1/3] fsnotify: Use d_find_any_alias to get dentry associated with inode Stephen Brennan
2022-11-10  1:12         ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-28  0:10       ` [PATCH v3 2/3] fsnotify: Protect i_fsnotify_mask and child flags with inode rwsem Stephen Brennan
2022-10-28  9:11         ` Amir Goldstein
2022-11-10  0:03         ` kernel test robot
2022-11-10  1:06           ` Stephen Brennan
2022-10-28  0:10       ` [PATCH v3 3/3] fsnotify: allow sleepable child flag update Stephen Brennan
2022-10-28  9:32         ` Amir Goldstein
2022-11-01 21:25           ` Stephen Brennan
2022-11-01 17:51       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2022-11-01 20:48         ` [PATCH v3 0/3] fsnotify: fix softlockups iterating over d_subdirs Stephen Brennan
2022-11-02  8:55           ` Amir Goldstein
2022-11-10 20:04             ` Stephen Brennan
2022-11-02 17:52           ` Jan Kara
2022-11-04 23:33             ` Stephen Brennan
2022-11-07 11:56               ` Jan Kara
2022-11-11 22:06       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] " Stephen Brennan
2022-11-11 22:06         ` [PATCH v4 1/5] fsnotify: clear PARENT_WATCHED flags lazily Stephen Brennan
2022-11-11 22:06         ` [PATCH v4 2/5] fsnotify: Use d_find_any_alias to get dentry associated with inode Stephen Brennan
2022-11-12  8:53           ` Amir Goldstein
2022-11-11 22:06         ` [PATCH v4 3/5] dnotify: move fsnotify_recalc_mask() outside spinlock Stephen Brennan
2022-11-12  9:06           ` Amir Goldstein
2022-11-11 22:06         ` [PATCH v4 4/5] fsnotify: allow sleepable child flag update Stephen Brennan
2022-11-12 10:00           ` Amir Goldstein
2022-11-15  7:10           ` kernel test robot
2022-11-11 22:06         ` [PATCH v4 5/5] fsnotify: require inode lock held during " Stephen Brennan
2022-11-12  9:42           ` Amir Goldstein
2022-11-11 22:08         ` [PATCH v4 0/5] fsnotify: fix softlockups iterating over d_subdirs Stephen Brennan
2022-11-22 11:50         ` Jan Kara
2022-11-22 14:03           ` Amir Goldstein

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