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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/16] add_timer_on(): Make sure callers have TIMER_PINNED flag
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 17:43:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221104164342.GA1440400@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221104145737.71236-6-anna-maria@linutronix.de>

On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 03:57:26PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen wrote:
> The implementation of the hierachical timer pull model will change the
> timer bases per CPU. Timers, that have to expire on a specific CPU, require
> the TIMER_PINNED flag. Otherwise they will be queued on the dedicated CPU
> but in global timer base and those timers could also expire on other
> CPUs. Timers with TIMER_DEFERRABLE flag end up in a separate base anyway
> and are executed on the local CPU only.
> 
> Therefore add the missing TIMER_PINNED flag for those callers who use
> add_timer_on() without the flag. No functional change.

You're fixing the current callers but what about the future ones?

add_timer_on() should always guarantee that a timer runs on the
right destination, which is not the case after your patchset if the
timer hasn't been set to TIMER_PINNED.

Therefore I think we should either have:

* add_timer_on() enforce TIMER_PINNED (doesn't work because if the timer is
  later called with mod_timer(), we should expect it to run anywhere)

or

* add_timer_on() warns if !TIMER_PINNED

or

* have an internal flag TIMER_LOCAL, that is turned on when
  add_timer_on() is called or add_timer()/mod_timer() is called
  on a TIMER_PINNED. Otherwise it is turned off.

The last solution should work with existing API and you don't need to
chase the current and future users of add_timer_on().

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-04 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-04 14:57 [PATCH v4 00/16] timer: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] tick-sched: Warn when next tick seems to be in the past Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] timer: Move store of next event into __next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] timer: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] timer: Rework idle logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] add_timer_on(): Make sure callers have TIMER_PINNED flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 16:43   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2022-11-07  8:11     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 10:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] timer: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] timer: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers seperately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 11:58   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] timer: Rename get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 12:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] timer: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 12:42   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 15:30     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] timer: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] timer: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] timer: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] timer: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-07 22:07   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 16:16     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-09 17:12       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 10:47   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 17:02     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-09 17:13       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-08 11:48   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-09 16:39   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-10  6:34     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-14 13:09   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-15 11:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-24  7:47     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-28 16:20       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-29 10:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-16 13:40   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] timer: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-08  4:37 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] timer: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Pavan Kondeti
2022-11-08 15:06   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-08 16:04     ` Pavan Kondeti
2022-11-08 17:39       ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2022-11-08 18:48         ` Pavan Kondeti

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