From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Ivan Babrou <ivan@cloudflare.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team <kernel-team@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: Low TCP throughput due to vmpressure with swap enabled
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 19:28:14 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221205192814.diiwtktsrgxzccw2@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y4T43Tc54vlKjTN0@cmpxchg.org>
On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 01:07:25PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>
[...]
> > With the patch applied I'm capped at ~120MB/s, which is a symptom of a
> > clamped window.
> >
> > I can't find any sockets with memcg->socket_pressure = 1, but at the
> > same time I only see the following rcv_ssthresh assigned to sockets:
>
> Hm, I don't see how socket accounting would alter the network behavior
> other than through socket_pressure=1.
>
I think what is happening is that the tcp stack is calling
tcp_under_memory_pressure() and making decisions without going through
the memcg charge codepath which set or reset memcg->socket_pressure.
Most probably the socket is clamped due to memcg->socket_pressure and
then the kernel never tried to grow its buffers because
memcg->socket_pressure is still set and thus never tried the memcg
charge codepath which would have reset memcg->socket_pressure. (Maybe)
That is my guess but network experts CCed can correct me.
Anyways, I don't think the pressure mechanism which relies on successful
charging will work. I am brainstorming towards memory.high based network
throttling. Basically use penalty_jiffies (or something similar) to set
memcg->socket_pressure. However I want this to be opt-in as we do have
applications which prefer to be killed than be throttled. So, still
working on the fine details how this can be done without introducing a
rigid API.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-05 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-22 0:53 Low TCP throughput due to vmpressure with swap enabled Ivan Babrou
2022-11-22 18:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2022-11-22 18:11 ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-22 18:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2022-11-22 18:59 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 19:05 ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-22 19:08 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 19:46 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 20:05 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-23 0:44 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-23 21:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-24 1:18 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-24 1:29 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 20:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-22 22:11 ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-23 1:28 ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-28 18:07 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-05 19:28 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2022-12-05 23:57 ` Ivan Babrou
2022-12-06 0:50 ` Ivan Babrou
2022-12-06 19:00 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-06 19:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2022-12-06 20:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-06 23:10 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-12-07 12:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-08 0:31 ` Shakeel Butt
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