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From: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Tim C . Chen" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] sched/fair: Generalize asym_packing logic for SMT local sched group
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 20:00:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221229040003.GA11497@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xhsmhv8m3e5sx.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb>

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 04:55:58PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 22/11/22 12:35, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> > @@ -8926,25 +8924,16 @@ static bool asym_smt_can_pull_tasks(int dst_cpu, struct sd_lb_stats *sds,
> >               return sched_asym_prefer(dst_cpu, sg->asym_prefer_cpu);
> >       }
> >
> > -	/* @dst_cpu has SMT siblings. */
> > -
> > -	if (sg_is_smt) {
> > -		int local_busy_cpus = sds->local->group_weight -
> > -				      sds->local_stat.idle_cpus;
> > -		int busy_cpus_delta = sg_busy_cpus - local_busy_cpus;
> > -
> > -		if (busy_cpus_delta == 1)
> > -			return sched_asym_prefer(dst_cpu, sg->asym_prefer_cpu);
> > -
> > -		return false;
> > -	}
> > -
> >       /*
> > -	 * @sg does not have SMT siblings. Ensure that @sds::local does not end
> > -	 * up with more than one busy SMT sibling and only pull tasks if there
> > -	 * are not busy CPUs (i.e., no CPU has running tasks).
> > +	 * @dst_cpu has SMT siblings. Do asym_packing load balancing only if
> > +	 * all its siblings are idle (moving tasks between physical cores in
> > +	 * which some SMT siblings are busy results in the same throughput).
> > +	 *
> > +	 * If the difference in the number of busy CPUs is two or more, let
> > +	 * find_busiest_group() take care of it. We only care if @sg has
> > +	 * exactly one busy CPU. This covers SMT and non-SMT sched groups.
> >        */
> > -	if (!sds->local_stat.sum_nr_running)
> > +	if (sg_busy_cpus == 1 && !sds->local_stat.sum_nr_running)
> >               return sched_asym_prefer(dst_cpu, sg->asym_prefer_cpu);
> >
> 
> Some of this is new to me - I had missed the original series introducing
> this. However ISTM that this is conflating two concepts: SMT occupancy
> balancing, and asym packing.
> 
> Take the !local_is_smt :: sg_busy_cpus >= 2 :: return true; path. It does
> not involve asym packing priorities at all. This can end up in an
> ASYM_PACKING load balance,

Yes, this the desired result: an idle low-priority CPU should help a high-
priority core with more than one busy SMT sibling. But yes, it does not
relate to priorities and can be implemented differently.

> which per calculate_imbalance() tries to move
> *all* tasks to the higher priority CPU - in the case of SMT balancing,
> we don't want to totally empty the core, just its siblings.

But it will not empty the core, only one of its SMT siblings. A single
sibling will be selected in find_busiest_queue(). The other siblings will
be unaffected.

> 
> Is there an ITMT/big.LITTLE (or however x86 calls it) case that invalidates
> the above?

Please see below.

> 
> Say, what's not sufficient with the below? AFAICT the only thing that isn't
> covered is the sg_busy_cpus >= 2 thing, but IMO that's SMT balancing, not
> asym packing - if the current calculate_imbalance() doesn't do it, it
> should be fixed to do it.

Agreed.

>Looking at the
> 
>   local->group_type == group_has_spare
> 
> case, it looks like it should DTRT.

I had tried (and failed) to have find_busiest_group() handle the
!local_is_smt :: sg_busy_cpus >= 2 case. Now I think I made it work.

When the busiest group is not overloaded, find_busiest_group() and
local->group = group_has_spare during an idle load balance events the
number of *idle* CPUs. However, this does not work if the local and busiest
groups have different weights. In SMT2, for instance, if busiest has 2 busy
CPUs (i.e., 0 idle CPUs) and the destination CPU is idle, the difference in
the number of idle CPUs is 1. find_busiest_group() will incorrectly goto
out_balanced.

This issue very visible in Intel hybrid processors because the big cores
have SMT but the small cores do not. It can, however, be reproduced in non-
hybrid processors by offlining the SMT siblings of some cores.

The problem can be fixed by instead balancing the number of *busy* CPUs,
which is what in general we want, IMO. (When two groups have the same
weight, it is equivalent to balancing the number of idle CPUs).

This patch worked for me:

@@ -9787,14 +9787,18 @@ static inline void calculate_imbalance(struct lb_env *env, struct sd_lb_stats *s
 			lsub_positive(&nr_diff, local->sum_nr_running);
 			env->imbalance = nr_diff;
 		} else {
+			unsigned int busiest_busy_cpus, local_busy_cpus;
+
+			busiest_busy_cpus = busiest->group_weight - busiest->idle_cpus;
+			local_busy_cpus = local->group_weight - local->idle_cpus;
 
 			/*
 			 * If there is no overload, we just want to even the number of
-			 * idle cpus.
+			 * busy cpus.
 			 */
 			env->migration_type = migrate_task;
-			env->imbalance = max_t(long, 0,
-					       (local->idle_cpus - busiest->idle_cpus));
+			env->imbalance = max_t(long, 0 ,
+					       (busiest_busy_cpus -  local_busy_cpus));
 		}
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
@@ -9981,18 +9985,24 @@ static struct sched_group *find_busiest_group(struct lb_env *env)
 			 */
 			goto out_balanced;
 
-		if (busiest->group_weight > 1 &&
-		    local->idle_cpus <= (busiest->idle_cpus + 1))
-			/*
-			 * If the busiest group is not overloaded
-			 * and there is no imbalance between this and busiest
-			 * group wrt idle CPUs, it is balanced. The imbalance
-			 * becomes significant if the diff is greater than 1
-			 * otherwise we might end up to just move the imbalance
-			 * on another group. Of course this applies only if
-			 * there is more than 1 CPU per group.
-			 */
-			goto out_balanced;
+		if (busiest->group_weight > 1) {
+			unsigned int local_busy_cpus, busiest_busy_cpus;
+
+			local_busy_cpus = local->group_weight - local->idle_cpus;
+			busiest_busy_cpus = busiest->group_weight - busiest->idle_cpus;
+
+			if (busiest_busy_cpus <= local_busy_cpus + 1)
+				/*
+				 * If the busiest group is not overloaded
+				 * and there is no imbalance between this and busiest
+				 * group wrt busy CPUs, it is balanced. The imbalance
+				 * becomes significant if the diff is greater than 1
+				 * otherwise we might end up to just move the imbalance
+				 * on another group. Of course this applies only if
+				 * there is more than 1 CPU per group.
+				 */
+				goto out_balanced;
+		}
 
 		if (busiest->sum_h_nr_running == 1)
 			/*

With this I can remove the sg_busy_cpus >=2 thing from asym_smt_can_pull_tasks().

> 
> ---
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 224107278471f..15eb2d3cff186 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -9176,12 +9176,15 @@ static inline bool
>  sched_asym(struct lb_env *env, struct sd_lb_stats *sds,  struct sg_lb_stats *sgs,
>  	   struct sched_group *group)
>  {
> -	/* Only do SMT checks if either local or candidate have SMT siblings */
> -	if ((sds->local->flags & SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY) ||
> -	    (group->flags & SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY))
> -		return asym_smt_can_pull_tasks(env->dst_cpu, sds, sgs, group);
> +	/*
> +	 * For SMT, env->idle != CPU_NOT_IDLE isn't sufficient, we need to make
> +	 * sure the whole core is idle.
> +	 */
> +	if (((sds->local->flags & SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY) ||
> +	     (group->flags & SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY)) &&
> +	    !test_idle_cores(env->dst_cpu))

But test_idle_cores() tests for *any* idle core in the highest domain with the
SD_SHARE_PKG_RESOURCES flag. Here we are only interested in the SMT siblings
of env->dst_cpu. If is_core_idle(env->dst_cpu) is used, then I agree with the
change.

Thanks and BR,
Ricardo

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-29  3:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-22 20:35 [PATCH v2 0/7] x86/sched: Avoid unnecessary migrations within SMT domains Ricardo Neri
2022-11-22 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] sched/fair: Generalize asym_packing logic for SMT local sched group Ricardo Neri
2022-12-06 17:22   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-12 17:53     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-21 13:03       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-22  4:32         ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-22 11:12           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-23 13:11             ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-22 16:55   ` Valentin Schneider
2022-12-29  4:00     ` Ricardo Neri [this message]
2023-01-11 16:04       ` Valentin Schneider
2023-01-13 19:02         ` Ricardo Neri
2023-01-16  4:05           ` Ricardo Neri
2023-01-16 19:07             ` Valentin Schneider
2023-01-17 12:49               ` Ricardo Neri
2022-11-22 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] sched: Prepare sched_asym_prefer() to handle idle state of SMT siblings Ricardo Neri
2022-11-22 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] sched: Teach arch_asym_cpu_priority() the " Ricardo Neri
2022-12-06 17:54   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-12 17:54     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-21 17:12       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-22  4:55         ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-22 16:56           ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-22 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] sched/fair: Introduce sched_smt_siblings_idle() Ricardo Neri
2022-12-06 18:03   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-12 17:54     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-22 11:12       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-22 16:56   ` Valentin Schneider
2022-12-24  5:28     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-28 15:29       ` Chen Yu
2022-12-30  0:17         ` Ricardo Neri
2023-01-10 19:21       ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-22 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] x86/sched: Remove SD_ASYM_PACKING from the "SMT" domain Ricardo Neri
2022-12-08 16:03   ` Ionela Voinescu
2022-12-14 16:59     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-15 16:48       ` Valentin Schneider
2022-12-20  0:42         ` Ricardo Neri
2022-12-22 16:56           ` Valentin Schneider
2022-12-29 19:02             ` Ricardo Neri
2023-01-10 19:17               ` Valentin Schneider
2023-01-13  1:31                 ` Ricardo Neri
2022-11-22 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] x86/sched/itmt: Give all SMT siblings of a core the same priority Ricardo Neri
2022-11-22 20:35 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] x86/sched/itmt: Consider the idle state of SMT siblings Ricardo Neri

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