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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Jeremi Piotrowski <jpiotrowski@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Kalra, Ashish" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Support ACPI PSP on Hyper-V
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 19:15:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230322181541.GEZBtFzRAMcH9BAzUe@fat_crate.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d25221c-eaab-0f97-83aa-8b4fbe3a53ed@linux.microsoft.com>

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 06:33:37PM +0100, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote:
> What this does is it allows a normal (non-SNP) VM to host confidential (SNP)
> VMs. I say "normal" but not every VM is going to be able to do this, it needs

If you say "non-SNP" VM then this sounds like purely for development.
Because I cannot see how you're going to give the confidentiality
guarantee to the SNP guests if the lower level is unencrypted, non-SNP
and so on...

> to be running on AMD hardware and configured to have access to
> VirtualizationExtensions, a "HardwareIsolation" capability, and given a number
> of "hardware isolated guests" that it is allowed to spawn. In practice this
> will result in the VM seeing a PSP device, SEV-SNP related CPUID
> leafs, and have access to additional memory management instructions
> (rmpadjust/psmash).  This allows the rest of the of KVM-SNP support to
> work.

So why don't you emulate the PSP in KVM instead of doing some BIOS hack?
And multiplex the access to it between all the parties needing it?

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-22 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20 19:19 [PATCH v3 0/8] Support ACPI PSP on Hyper-V Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] include/acpi: add definition of ASPT table Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] ACPI: ASPT: Add helper to parse table Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] x86/psp: Register PSP platform device when ASP table is present Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:25   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-20 19:37     ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 20:03       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-20 20:18         ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 21:03           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-21 14:15             ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] x86/psp: Add IRQ support Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-21 10:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-21 19:16     ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-22 10:07       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-28 18:29         ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] crypto: cpp - Bind to psp platform device on x86 Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] crypto: ccp - Add vdata for platform device Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] crypto: ccp - Skip DMA coherency check for platform psp Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-20 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] crypto: ccp - Allow platform device to be psp master device Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-22 15:46 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Support ACPI PSP on Hyper-V Borislav Petkov
2023-03-22 17:33   ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-22 18:15     ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2023-03-23 14:46       ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-23 15:23         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-23 16:11           ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-03-23 16:34             ` Borislav Petkov
2023-03-24 17:10               ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-04-02 15:44                 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-04-03  6:20                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-05  7:56                     ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-04-11 15:10                       ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-04-13 21:53                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-05  8:10                     ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-04-05  8:50                   ` Jeremi Piotrowski

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