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From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@Oracle.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com,
	axelrasmussen@google.com, bgeffon@google.com,
	willy@infradead.org, jannh@google.com, kaleshsingh@google.com,
	ngeoffray@google.com, timmurray@google.com, rppt@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] userfaultfd: use per-vma locks in userfaultfd operations
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:18:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240129211832.qqg5bnhswy3jur2c@revolver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpFS=h8h1Tgn55Hv+cr9bUFFoUvejiFQsHGN5yT7utpDMg@mail.gmail.com>

* Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> [240129 15:53]:
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 12:36 PM Liam R. Howlett

...

> > > @@ -465,7 +503,7 @@ static __always_inline ssize_t mfill_atomic_hugetlb(
> > >
> > >               if (unlikely(err == -ENOENT)) {
> > >                       up_read(&ctx->map_changing_lock);
> > > -                     mmap_read_unlock(dst_mm);
> > > +                     unpin_vma(dst_mm, dst_vma, mmap_locked);
> > >                       BUG_ON(!folio);
> > >
> > >                       err = copy_folio_from_user(folio,
> > > @@ -474,17 +512,6 @@ static __always_inline ssize_t mfill_atomic_hugetlb(
> > >                               err = -EFAULT;
> > >                               goto out;
> > >                       }
> > > -                     mmap_read_lock(dst_mm);
> > > -                     down_read(&ctx->map_changing_lock);
> > > -                     /*
> > > -                      * If memory mappings are changing because of non-cooperative
> > > -                      * operation (e.g. mremap) running in parallel, bail out and
> > > -                      * request the user to retry later
> > > -                      */
> > > -                     if (atomic_read(ctx->mmap_changing)) {
> > > -                             err = -EAGAIN;
> > > -                             break;
> > > -                     }
> >
> > ... Okay, this is where things get confusing.
> >
> > How about this: Don't do this locking/boolean dance.
> >
> > Instead, do something like this:
> > In mm/memory.c, below lock_vma_under_rcu(), but something like this
> >
> > struct vm_area_struct *lock_vma(struct mm_struct *mm,
> >         unsigned long addr))    /* or some better name.. */
> > {
> >         struct vm_area_struct *vma;
> >
> >         vma = lock_vma_under_rcu(mm, addr);
> >
> >         if (vma)
> >                 return vma;
> >
> >         mmap_read_lock(mm);
> >         vma = lookup_vma(mm, addr);
> >         if (vma)
> >                 vma_start_read(vma); /* Won't fail */
> 
> Please don't assume vma_start_read() won't fail even when you have
> mmap_read_lock(). See the comment in vma_start_read() about the
> possibility of an overflow producing false negatives.

I did say something *like* this...

Thanks for catching my mistake.

> 
> >
> >         mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> >         return vma;
> > }
> >
> > Now, we know we have a vma that's vma locked if there is a vma.  The vma
> > won't go away - you have it locked.  The mmap lock is held for even
> > less time for your worse case, and the code gets easier to follow.
> >
> > Once you are done with the vma do a vma_end_read(vma).  Don't forget to
> > do this!
> >
> > Now the comment above such a function should state that the vma needs to
> > be vma_end_read(vma), or that could go undetected..  It might be worth
> > adding a unlock_vma() counterpart to vma_end_read(vma) even.
> 
> Locking VMA while holding mmap_read_lock is an interesting usage
> pattern I haven't seen yet. I think this should work quite well!

What concerns me is this working too well - for instance someone *ahem*
binder *ahem* forever and always isolating their VMA, or someone
forgetting to unlock and never noticing.

vma->vm_lock->lock being locked should be caught by lockdep on exit
though.

...

Thanks,
Liam

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-29 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-29 19:35 [PATCH v2 0/3] per-vma locks in userfaultfd Lokesh Gidra
2024-01-29 19:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] userfaultfd: move userfaultfd_ctx struct to header file Lokesh Gidra
2024-01-30  7:12   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-01-29 19:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: protect mmap_changing with rw_sem in userfaulfd_ctx Lokesh Gidra
2024-01-29 21:00   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-29 22:35     ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-01-30  3:46       ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-30  8:55         ` Mike Rapoport
2024-01-30 17:28           ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-31  2:24             ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-02-04 10:27               ` Mike Rapoport
2024-02-05 20:53                 ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-02-07 15:27                   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-02-07 20:24                     ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-02-12  8:14                       ` Mike Rapoport
2024-01-30  7:21   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-01-29 19:35 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] userfaultfd: use per-vma locks in userfaultfd operations Lokesh Gidra
2024-01-29 20:36   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-29 20:52     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-01-29 21:18       ` Liam R. Howlett [this message]
2024-01-30  0:28       ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-01-30  2:58         ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-31  2:49           ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-01-31 21:41             ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-02-05 21:46               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-02-05 21:54                 ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-02-05 22:00                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-02-05 22:24                     ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-02-06 14:35                       ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-02-06 16:26                         ` Lokesh Gidra
2024-02-06 17:07                           ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-31  3:03           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-01-31 21:43             ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-29 20:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] per-vma locks in userfaultfd Liam R. Howlett
2024-01-29 21:58   ` Lokesh Gidra

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