linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: linke li <lilinke99@qq.com>,
	joel@joelfernandes.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	frederic@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com,
	quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcutorture: Fix rcu_torture_pipe_update_one()/rcu_torture_writer() data race and concurrency bug
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:20:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240306132012.54a9ec01@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <140c2d21-1d52-4c46-bbdd-f7b4b7eabbff@paulmck-laptop>

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:09:48 -0800
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:

> > Perhaps we need a way to annotate them, like we have with __rcu. "__shared"?
> > 
> > Then all accesses to that variable must be wrapped with a READ_ONCE() or
> > WRITE_ONCE()? I mean, if this can cause legitimate bugs, we should probably
> > address it like we do with locking and RCU.  
> 
> If we want that, just mark the field "volatile", as in "jiffies".

I already know Linus's view on "volatile" variables ;-)

> 
> And one of the strengths of READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() is that they
> allow non-volatile access where it is safe.  For example, if you hold the
> lock protecting all stores to that variable, you still need WRITE_ONCE()
> but not READ_ONCE().  In initialization and cleanup code, you don't
> need either.

I guess the current static analyzers just look to see where READ_ONCE() or
WRITE_ONCE() is used and checks to see if other places have them properly
used. I'm guessing that's where the OP patch came from.

Sounds like we just need a ADD_ONCE() or INC_ONCE() then. Because I am not
taking a

	WRITE_ONCE(a, READ_ONCE(a) + 1);

patch that replaces a simple "a++".

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04 10:54 [PATCH] rcutorture: Fix rcu_torture_pipe_update_one()/rcu_torture_writer() data race and concurrency bug linke li
2024-03-04 16:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 17:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 19:10     ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 19:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 20:13         ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 20:47           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-05  3:30             ` linke
2024-03-05  6:24   ` linke li
2024-03-06 15:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 17:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:01         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 18:09           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:20             ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2024-03-06 18:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 18:55             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:47                   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 20:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 13:20                       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-07 16:12                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:27                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 20:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07  2:29                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  2:43                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07  2:49                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07  3:21                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  3:06                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  3:06                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-07  3:37                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  5:44                             ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-07 19:05                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 13:53                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-07 19:47                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 19:53                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-08  0:58                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 20:00                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 20:57                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 21:40                                     ` Julia Lawall
2024-03-07 22:09                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-08  0:55                                         ` Paul E. McKenney

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20240306132012.54a9ec01@gandalf.local.home \
    --to=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
    --cc=dave@stgolabs.net \
    --cc=frederic@kernel.org \
    --cc=jiangshanlai@gmail.com \
    --cc=joel@joelfernandes.org \
    --cc=josh@joshtriplett.org \
    --cc=lilinke99@qq.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
    --cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
    --cc=qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com \
    --cc=quic_neeraju@quicinc.com \
    --cc=rcu@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).