linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Kernal <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v4] blk-mq-scheduling framework
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:14:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2028A64C-40E5-403D-B5E9-05863E94B4C5@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C5DAF0C3-0509-4297-B12F-C436923A8311@linaro.org>


> Il giorno 17 gen 2017, alle ore 11:49, Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org> ha scritto:
> 
> [NEW RESEND ATTEMPT]
> 
>> Il giorno 17 gen 2017, alle ore 03:47, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> ha scritto:
>> 
>> On 12/22/2016 08:28 AM, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Il giorno 19 dic 2016, alle ore 22:05, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> ha scritto:
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/19/2016 11:21 AM, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Il giorno 19 dic 2016, alle ore 16:20, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/19/2016 04:32 AM, Paolo Valente wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Il giorno 17 dic 2016, alle ore 01:12, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is version 4 of this patchset, version 3 was posted here:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://marc.info/?l=linux-block&m=148178513407631&w=2
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From the discussion last time, I looked into the feasibility of having
>>>>>>>> two sets of tags for the same request pool, to avoid having to copy
>>>>>>>> some of the request fields at dispatch and completion time. To do that,
>>>>>>>> we'd have to replace the driver tag map(s) with our own, and augment
>>>>>>>> that with tag map(s) on the side representing the device queue depth.
>>>>>>>> Queuing IO with the scheduler would allocate from the new map, and
>>>>>>>> dispatching would acquire the "real" tag. We would need to change
>>>>>>>> drivers to do this, or add an extra indirection table to map a real
>>>>>>>> tag to the scheduler tag. We would also need a 1:1 mapping between
>>>>>>>> scheduler and hardware tag pools, or additional info to track it.
>>>>>>>> Unless someone can convince me otherwise, I think the current approach
>>>>>>>> is cleaner.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wasn't going to post v4 so soon, but I discovered a bug that led
>>>>>>>> to drastically decreased merging. Especially on rotating storage,
>>>>>>>> this release should be fast, and on par with the merging that we
>>>>>>>> get through the legacy schedulers.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm to modifying bfq.  You mentioned other missing pieces to come.  Do
>>>>>>> you already have an idea of what they are, so that I am somehow
>>>>>>> prepared to what won't work even if my changes are right?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm mostly talking about elevator ops hooks that aren't there in the new
>>>>>> framework, but exist in the old one. There should be no hidden
>>>>>> surprises, if that's what you are worried about.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the ops side, the only ones I can think of are the activate and
>>>>>> deactivate, and those can be done in the dispatch_request hook for
>>>>>> activate, and put/requeue for deactivate.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You mean that there is no conceptual problem in moving the code of the
>>>>> activate interface function into the dispatch function, and the code
>>>>> of the deactivate into the put_request? (for a requeue it is a little
>>>>> less clear to me, so one step at a time)  Or am I missing
>>>>> something more complex?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, what I mean is that there isn't a 1:1 mapping between the old ops
>>>> and the new ops. So you'll have to consider the cases.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Problem: whereas it seems easy and safe to do somewhere else the
>>> simple increment that was done in activate_request, I wonder if it may
>>> happen that a request is deactivate before being completed.  In it may
>>> happen, then, without a deactivate_request hook, the increments would
>>> remain unbalanced.  Or are request completions always guaranteed till
>>> no hw/sw components breaks?
>> 
>> You should be able to do it in get/put_request. But you might need some
>> extra tracking, I'd need to double check.
> 
> Exactly, AFAICT something extra is apparently needed.  In particular,
> get is not ok, because dispatch is a different event (but dispatch is
> however an already controlled event), while put could be used,
> provided that it is guaranteed to be executed only after dispatch.  If
> it is not, then I think that an extra flag or something should be
> added to the request.  I don't know whether adding this extra piece
> would be worst than adding an extra hook.
> 
>> 
>> I'm trying to avoid adding
>> hooks that we don't truly need, the old interface had a lot of that. If
>> you find that you need a hook and it isn't there, feel free to add it.
>> activate/deactivate might be a good change.
>> 
> 
> If my comments above do not trigger any proposal of a better solution,
> then I will try by adding only one extra 'deactivate' hook.  Unless
> unbalanced hooks are a bad idea too.
> 

Jens,
according to the function blk_mq_sched_put_request, the
mq.completed_request hook seems to always be invoked (if set) for a
request for which the mq.put_rq_priv is invoked (if set).

If you don't warn me that I'm wrong, I will base on the above
assumption, and complete bfq without any additional hook or flag.

Thanks,
Paolo

> Thanks,
> Paolo
> 
>> -- 
>> Jens Axboe
> 
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-block" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-18 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-17  0:12 [PATCHSET v4] blk-mq-scheduling framework Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 1/8] block: move existing elevator ops to union Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 2/8] blk-mq: make mq_ops a const pointer Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 3/8] block: move rq_ioc() to blk.h Jens Axboe
2016-12-20 10:12   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 15:46     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-20 22:14       ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 4/8] blk-mq: un-export blk_mq_free_hctx_request() Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 5/8] blk-mq: export some helpers we need to the scheduling framework Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 6/8] blk-mq-sched: add framework for MQ capable IO schedulers Jens Axboe
2016-12-20 11:55   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 15:45     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-21  2:22     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 15:20       ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22  9:59   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 11:13     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47       ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17 10:13         ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17 12:38           ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-23 10:12     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47     ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17  9:17       ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 7/8] mq-deadline: add blk-mq adaptation of the deadline IO scheduler Jens Axboe
2016-12-20  9:34   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 15:46     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-21 11:59   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-21 14:22     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 16:07   ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 16:49   ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47     ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-20 11:07       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 14:26         ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-20 13:14   ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 13:18     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 14:28       ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-20 14:28     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-01 11:11   ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02  5:19     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-02  9:19       ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02 15:30         ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-02 21:15           ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02 21:32             ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-07 17:27               ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-01 11:56   ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02  5:20     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-16 10:46   ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-16 15:35     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 8/8] blk-mq-sched: allow setting of default " Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 11:32 ` [PATCHSET v4] blk-mq-scheduling framework Paolo Valente
2016-12-19 15:20   ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 15:33     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 18:21     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-19 21:05       ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 15:28         ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47           ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17 10:49             ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-18 16:14               ` Paolo Valente [this message]
2017-01-18 16:21                 ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-23 17:04                   ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-23 17:42                     ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-25  8:46                       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-25 16:13                         ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-26 14:23                           ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 16:23 ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-22 16:52   ` Omar Sandoval
2016-12-22 16:57     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-22 17:12       ` Omar Sandoval
2016-12-22 17:39         ` Bart Van Assche

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=2028A64C-40E5-403D-B5E9-05863E94B4C5@linaro.org \
    --to=paolo.valente@linaro.org \
    --cc=axboe@fb.com \
    --cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
    --cc=broonie@kernel.org \
    --cc=linus.walleij@linaro.org \
    --cc=linux-block@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=osandov@fb.com \
    --cc=ulf.hansson@linaro.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).