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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "Christopherson, Sean J" <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Dock, Deneen T" <deneen.t.dock@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kristen@linux.intel.com" <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
	"luto@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/13] x86/cpufeature: Add detection of KVM XO
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:02:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <217403c0f9790c1142b51231d5b4ccfd6d83cf61.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191030145520.GA14391@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 07:55 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 04:52:08PM -0700, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > On Tue, 2019-10-29 at 16:33 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 02:23:56PM -0700, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> > > > Add a new CPUID leaf to hold the contents of CPUID 0x40000030 EAX to
> > > > detect KVM defined generic VMM features.
> > > > 
> > > > The leaf was proposed to allow KVM to communicate features that are
> > > > defined by KVM, but available for any VMM to implement.
> 
> This doesn't necessarily work the way you intend, KVM's base CPUID isn't
> guaranteed to be 0x40000000.  E.g. KVM supports advertising itself as
> HyperV *and* KVM, in which case KVM's CPUID base will be 0x40000100.
> 
> I think you're better off just making this a standard KVM CPUID feature.
> If a different hypervisor wants to reuse guest support as is, it can
> advertise KVM support at a lower priority.
> 
Ok, I'm fine going with the simpler KVM CPUID bit. It's not like per-VMM CPUID
leaf meanings are a new scenario with this.

> Note, querying guest CPUID isn't straightforward in either case.  But,
> KVM doesn't support disabling its other CPUID-base paravirt features, e.g.
> KVM emulates the kvm_clock MSRs regardless of what userspace advertises to
> the guest.  Depending on what changes are required in KVM's MMU, this may
> also need to be a KVM-wide feature, i.e. controlled via a module param.
> > > > Add cpu_feature_enabled() support for features in this leaf (KVM XO),
> > > > and
> > > > a pgtable_kvmxo_enabled() helper similar to pgtable_l5_enabled() so that
> > > > pgtable_kvmxo_enabled() can be used in early code that includes
> > > > arch/x86/include/asm/sparsemem.h.
> > > > 
> > > > Lastly, in head64.c detect and this feature and perform necessary
> > > > adjustments to physical_mask.
> > > 
> > > Can this be exposed to /proc/cpuinfo so a guest userspace can determine
> > > if this feature is enabled?
> > > 
> > > -Kees
> > 
> > Is there a good place to expose the information that the PROT_EXEC and
> > !PROT_READ combo creates execute-only memory? This way apps can check one
> > place
> > for the support and not worry about the implementation whether it's this,
> > x86
> > pkeys, arm or other.
> 
> I don't think so?  Assuming there's no common method, it can be displayed
> in /proc/cpuinfo by adding a synthetic bit, e.g. in Linux-defined word 8
> (virtualization) instead of a dedicated word.  The bit can then be
> set if the features exists and is enabled (by the guest).
> 
> I'd also name the feature EXEC_ONLY.  XO is unnecessarily terse IMO, and
> including "KVM" in the name may be misconstrued as a host KVM feature and
> will be flat out wrong if hardware ever supports XO natively.

Ok, if there is no generic way I guess I'll do this.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-30 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-03 21:23 [RFC PATCH 00/13] XOM for KVM guest userspace Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] kvm: Enable MTRR to work with GFNs with perm bits Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-14  6:47   ` Yu Zhang
2019-10-14 18:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] kvm: Add support for X86_FEATURE_KVM_XO Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] kvm: Add XO memslot type Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-04  7:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-04 19:06     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-06 16:15       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] kvm, vmx: Add support for gva exit qualification Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] kvm: Add #PF injection for KVM XO Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-04  7:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-04 19:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] kvm: Add KVM_CAP_EXECONLY_MEM Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-04  7:24   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-04 19:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] kvm: Add docs for KVM_CAP_EXECONLY_MEM Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] x86/boot: Rename USE_EARLY_PGTABLE_L5 Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] x86/cpufeature: Add detection of KVM XO Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-29 23:33   ` Kees Cook
2019-10-29 23:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-30 14:55       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-30 21:02         ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] x86/mm: Add NR page bit for " Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-04  7:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] x86, ptdump: Add NR bit to page table dump Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-03 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] mmap: Add XO support for KVM XO Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-04  7:34   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-04 19:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-03 21:24 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] x86/Kconfig: Add Kconfig for KVM based XO Rick Edgecombe
2019-10-29 23:36   ` Kees Cook
2019-10-30  0:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-30 18:36       ` Kees Cook
2019-10-04  7:22 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] XOM for KVM guest userspace Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-04 19:03   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-04 14:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-04 20:09   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-05  1:33     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-07 18:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2019-10-29 23:40 ` Kees Cook
2019-10-30  0:27   ` Edgecombe, Rick P

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