From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A51C43381 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E55D206DD for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726327AbfCGAd2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:33:28 -0500 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.136]:60755 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726224AbfCGAd0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:33:26 -0500 Received: from hanvin-mobl2.amr.corp.intel.com ([192.55.54.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.zytor.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x270WLhJ1950669 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Mar 2019 16:32:22 -0800 Subject: Re: [RFC] Provide in-kernel headers for making it easy to extend the kernel To: Daniel Colascione , Pavel Machek Cc: Joel Fernandes , Greg KH , linux-kernel , Andrew Morton , ast@kernel.org, atish patra , Borislav Petkov , Ingo Molnar , Jan Kara , Jonathan Corbet , Karim Yaghmour , Kees Cook , kernel-team@android.com, "open list:DOCUMENTATION" , Manoj Rao , Masahiro Yamada , Paul McKenney , "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" , Randy Dunlap , rostedt@goodmis.org, Thomas Gleixner , "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" , yhs@fb.com References: <20190118225543.86996-1-joel@joelfernandes.org> <20190119082532.GA9004@kroah.com> <20190119162754.GC231277@google.com> <20190119232503.GA149403@google.com> <78AACAF1-8EBF-4DF3-BE94-5B14E78BA791@zytor.com> <20190120155838.GA23827@google.com> <20190306230944.GB7915@amd> From: "H. Peter Anvin" Message-ID: <2205470b-1efc-b357-8b2e-67392cf8bb2e@zytor.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 16:32:20 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 3/6/19 3:37 PM, Daniel Colascione wrote: > > I just don't get the opposition to Joel's work. The rest of the thread > already goes into detail about the problems with pure-filesystem > solutions, and you and others are just totally ignoring those > well-thought-out rationales for the module approach and doing > inflooping on "lol just use a tarball". That's not productive. > You might think they are well thought out, but at least from what I can tell they seem completely spurious. -hpa